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I'm -- -- -- welcome back your -- guy with a great first name Alan Grayson even spells it right Pelé and congressman Grayson back in the House of Representatives.
And you are speaking out against the budget at least the change CPI part of it.
Given by the president the White House congressman of course is saying look we've compromise we compromise with the Republicans now it's their turn is that a fair argument.
No you don't compromise your principles -- a compromise between right and wrong kind of took a much between life and death -- We're talking specifically about the Social Security cuts in the Medicare cuts.
A democratic presidents put in his proposed budget.
A little bit I think but it honestly -- it is good it's not something that one should compromise on one not it's not used to give away.
There are people who work 4050 years.
Other -- working lunch.
And then what do we tell them -- it's their turn I'm sorry you're out of -- it's it's not fair it's not -- used to giveaways but it is to negotiate away and it -- I think.
The worst thing that you can do in negotiations situations -- compromise -- principles.
His -- they will argue on the other side that this is not a cut it's just a cut in the rate of increase.
That he goes up any way this is this just makes it go up less fast to set a fair argument.
No it's not -- -- -- we're talking specifically in the case which took security.
So we're we're talking about the cost of living increase protections.
That beneficiaries get -- the cost of living goes up 3% then you're you're you're.
You benefit goes to 3% to -- -- that the 5%.
-- because of 5%.
The evidence at this point is that the cost food increases could -- resistance treadmill or insufficient.
Because seniors life things.
That tend to -- in -- faster you know continue to do that medical clearance over food.
We're we're you know we're not talking to love so much about travel we're not talking so much about education.
It happened -- -- particular -- substantial body of literature indicating.
That the existing quarterly increase was insufficient troops took to provide the same level but it does -- there's been present cutting that.
So I mean that's consistent on the unemployment argument which has been portrayed often engage -- -- -- Particular past -- that the increase.
The whole point haven't increased to protect the current level of benefits to protect the benefits from -- books and you can't and you're -- -- Is there a place where the president could say okay here's -- uncompromising here's.
Where I'm doing my part to meet you part of the way now it's time the Republicans to come forward we could he do that.
It's fundamentally wrong for the president to compromise at all unsure of security and Medicare because so security and Medicare are not part of the problem.
Of security had zero -- -- the deficit.
Medicare -- zero to go to the deficit cop.
I'm sure there are demented people on the Republican Party want to destroy.
The social safety net for seniors and -- them -- into poverty.
I'm sure there are people like if you don't believe me -- the Ryan budget.
But the fact remains that there is no reason there is no reason why we need to -- -- -- security or Medicare and therefore we should.
So that's no place even talk about cutting user -- cutting defense may be defense spending.
That's always talk about.
You know -- -- think your show I think you wanna turn the Pentagon it would triangle.
Certainly there's opportunities to -- defense.
Yeah you have not to -- -- tendered through idol.
You have said that this could end up dragging down the entire party think it's that dire.
Well it potentially incident I mean that you know -- Well up until this point given the fact that the Ryan budget we've been in this situation where the Republicans are clearly identified themselves.
As the party that wants to -- -- security wants to privatize -- culture I.
Medicare and then eliminate every single guaranteed benefit under the Medicare program.
-- -- -- -- -- Now our party Democratic Party.
Has been giving people -- to this point a clear choice -- If you want to have security benefits cut if you want Medicare benefits could vote for the Republican.
If you build -- trucks.
And in fact the polls recently have been showing us upon the public funds are positions.
On in general not just on -- -- but in general.
Much much more popular and the Republican positions which are basically to turn the entire country.
Into cheap labor -- It is good the Democrats are making tremendous struggle as well as quinnipiac poll had the Democrat took by eight points.
In the national polling.
And now because of the president's budget the -- which we've only seen them in the Republican who returned over this -- The risk that we have right now is that instead of the Republican being the party that they explicitly propose them and seeks to cut Social Security benefits and Medicare benefits.
And the Democrats being the -- against now the other party wants to do that and -- the party it was a confluence with the you.
The voters could not enough not only will it hurt the -- -- the voters the voters deserve a choice.
And and then we are -- the voters have that choice.
-- it's democracy means everything this country and people should be able to choose between a party that wants to -- -- attitude which.
Social Security benefits cut Medicare benefits at a party that doesn't.
And it's deep into the sinister than that many people that are good about the political system when we have one party.
It's making these destructive proposals and the other party wants to -- to meet them halfway.
You have you're an economist by the way people should know that eventually you'll also have very steeped in the health care issue.
Did you you already running with it you ran health care company -- you -- -- you -- on the healthcare business.
You know I I -- for more than twenty years I was an -- certainly aligned straight and researcher George screeching researches what it sounds like it's an organization could try to promote.
Research on the causes and -- picture -- -- the aging process.
So -- -- the Affordable Care Act which is starting to kick in and -- will kick in and 2014.
If people seem very confused about this certainly from the economics and economics standpoint and I don't know the people -- really educated about it is this really the best answer where should we have gone toward a single Payer or more progressive health care plan.
Hope I will tell but the bottom line on the approval -- -- it's once -- fully implemented by the end of next year.
I'm virtually everyone who -- -- citizens that are -- beside the undocumented.
Purchase ever go to the citizen living in America will have -- coverage.
Look at it and it's imminent at this point that the affordability credits start -- -- can.
People start -- those -- -- here affordability credits mean that nobody who.
Pop -- and you'd -- Utah -- come level 88000 dollars for truly important another winter models for different touch him it's kinda nobody upbeat income level have to spend more than 11% of their income.
The government in effect will be giving you a discount.
On your insurance.
If you have to pay more than 11% -- -- so it becomes affordable for everybody.
-- -- expansion of Medicaid it'll go to the Supreme Court and Republican governor is trying to interfere in bed with the expansion Medicaid policy affordability credits should add thirty million people thirty million Americans.
To the -- of those who conceive doctor when they're sick.
They get the care that they need to be 22 to become they'll figure.
And that's a tremendous accomplishment we probably -- accomplish the same thing with single Payer.
You know there are those who say we could've done a more cheaply.
-- single Payer because Medicare has saying.
3% overhead rate and then private insurance -- -- 30% open a greater profit great my solution which I'm still proposing which have already filed as a bill HR 500.
It's allow people to buy into miniature.
That is in effect.
Allowing people to create the -- single Payer system.
And it's incredibly cheap -- -- we we have been the Congressional Budget Office prices -- first for children.
And buy into Medicare cost a hundred dollars a month and for the full coverage is a hostile congress to doctor courage and even the prescription drug -- everything.
A hundred -- so much.
Everything disabling a stripper for the elderly North Korea to 626364.
It would cost people that are able regardless of -- and conditions and of course from barely 400 dollars a month.
One of the knocks on the portable carriages it'll bring more taxes to people and people are hearing.
Oh my -- it's -- cost -- more money than we thought.
More taxes is that an accurate portrayal.
No I mean for one thing affordable cured from this is still true even though much -- already been transparent actually reduces the deficit.
It reduces the deficit by a hundred billion dollars so pretend here.
And it does so fired a variety of a different means but the bottom line is exactly what the -- If you like your insurance you can keep -- And that is but it doesn't it doesn't.
The indication at this point.
Are not that it's all of the insurance the cost more that's raising -- but actually to the contrary -- -- if you do differences with the birth to the Medicare Advantage -- and so under the program.
The medical -- and in some -- have become cheaper and certainly more potential.
We are more there's more Medicare Advantage option now then there were one when the program started so.
The evidence it's coming and -- There are millions upon millions of people who are already covered and then you know insurance companies cover children -- to 26 among other things.
-- insurance companies are starting to have to provide care and coverage coverage and care to people -- prix presented.
But there will be taxes on -- -- -- come about 3% increase right and also tax on medical equipment so there will be some taxes associated with this.
Well let let's be clear about this only that's actually put already -- for everybody else happened to get into the strange part -- -- mind police say they're gonna tax people who were prolific.
We're gonna tax -- and we're not gonna attack -- those people.
I don't work for a living and simply as we used to say clip coupons so matured but your people -- -- And end all we -- have been extended protection order exists how people have to -- initial poll worker regenerate the wage income and we simply applied that tax car to people who don't.
I -- the ironic thing yeah beat them if they and dividends and things like that area.
Income from stocks and dividends that are not part of wages.
That's right investment income not all investment incumbent the year -- you -- income from from dividends and from what I just.
Why would we not -- that.
But we would text people who called social goals go to work every -- and work for a living what's essential that I mean it shows how bizarre the system waters.
We should because there -- moving there so we should be put on capitol -- make it more progressive tax system and in doing so what we're doing is paying for health care for -- report.
Is this -- Obama budget gonna pass you think.
You know -- and look at very cute looks if they had.
They've probably Republicans know and that probably won't put an ultra vote in the house stay the other very selective about the -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- They probably will put up from the Obama budget -- -- -- -- Obama budget is definitely not get any Republicans say and actually could quite possibly.
Because of the content socially Korean military ms.
-- Democrat you lose the public -- -- I promised and then by the -- have circulated -- -- certified members of congress should -- that I have promised to -- against any bill.
I would cut social security and Medicare and Medicaid benefits and -- of thirty doesn't certify those to join my -- and we have collected over two million.
Citizen -- on this that we delivered prepared two to three million in the end citizens position that we delivered to the White House from my offense we delivered them the White House today.
And then we yourself collected over a quarter million of those petitions have a single web site how are no -- its web site which he -- best -- dot com.
And over a quarter million people -- to that one web site that we've established.
When you combine that with the efforts of well complete democracy for America Credo action in the -- progressive Democrats of America and other organizations.
We delivered three million petitions the White House saying stop it.
-- we don't want -- -- security benefits cut we don't want a Medicare benefits cut I think we should be looking to improve the benefits.
I mean actually intensity I think many people are very surprised to -- military did not cover eyes ears -- -- It doesn't cover questions over -- it doesn't cover dental work.
Many people -- really should shocked to hear that that's the -- those are all legitimate medical it's.
We should be thinking about and figuring out how to extend -- that Medicare each province of Indian or your medical -- when you turn sixty conduct.
Content is -- -- -- -- I appreciate your time thanks in -- and -- was tonight.
What are thanks very much she'll be great thank you so much congressman Alan Grayson.
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