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And welcome to fox and his other battle plus with Scott Brown Marjorie Clifton Karl Rove and Evan Bayh and one of the -- we didn't get to with the panel was going to be a big story this week.
Is guns that that that Republicans some of the Republicans talked about trying to filibuster -- the belly been coming up.
They lost rather badly 68 to 3132.
And so they're gonna bring amendments to the floor including the mansion to me.
Amendment which would expand the background -- let me start with you -- How significant that they were able to beat the filibuster right -- the top.
And how effective do you think the president's use of the -- families has been this week in changing the mood on capitol.
Well I'm not certain how effective has been a change in the -- on Capitol Hill but people were either open to this -- they -- frankly.
The point to senator cornyn made I felt was a good one it isn't anything we're talking about now in the background check proposal mansion to -- Would not have stopped any of these four previous horrific.
Look -- I think that was a little bit of an overreach -- -- is do people want this issue to be discussed they wanted to be decided and we don't need to block everything in the senate.
So outraged by the side in the -- on the -- on the senate Republicans.
-- -- and looked -- within we have the Republican House we have the NRA actively involved we have.
You know to -- thoughtful people who are risks -- who are supportive of gun rights.
Fashion this compromise this process I suspect that final legislation that the senate passes -- that house considers -- offers is going to be somewhat different than what we're seeing now.
But I'm I'm hopeful that that this is something where they're kind of a consensus can be built in the 1990s.
The NRA was open to closing the so called gun shoot -- gun show loophole.
And we've we will now see a process go forward over the next months not this just as next week but over the next several months.
That I think might result and the consensus about about how to do that -- your gas just I understand -- gas but do you think mentioned to -- passes this week and a you know I tell -- -- And and I don't know because he did go back to senator Brown's regular order issue I think there's a lot of concern as you know -- -- about how little time is going to be.
Considered in committee how little time for amendments this thing is if we want to get it done we should place a one week deadline and -- a confluence.
Senator off here are your thoughts about the whole issue and the likelihood of what's gonna get through if any anytime you've had a national long.
Calamity like from Newtown shootings it's just not a tenable position in the senate to say we're gonna filibuster not even talk about.
Things that could be done -- at least discuss ideas of so.
There was a strong bipartisan majority for -- is going forward.
My guess is that.
Mentioned to me will probably -- you've got Susan Collins has been supportive to me obviously his supporters singing -- -- the Republicans.
With Joseph mansion out there who added that of course assumes you're gonna get all the red state -- -- -- with Joseph mansion whose.
Shot the cap and trade bill -- one of his first ads and he's very strong Second Amendment Rights.
Out in front that's should provide some comfort for other Second Amendment Democrat so my guess is.
With the assault weapons ban out with that thing dealing with high capacity magazine clips out with all that out.
My guess is you'll get almost unanimous probably unanimous democratic support so bottom line.
My guess is -- past.
-- Well I do think that it's also as you pointed out a unique time given the calamity and some hard times unfortunately it requires that actually get momentum and we do still how about.
Public opinion momentum and I think.
You know the Obama administration using that new town families today and to re energize that frustration and that hurt but also that imperative to get something done will help.
Yeah we -- looking at 64% of Americans supporting the background checks originally I think there is broad public opinion which of course drives you know our.
Our legislators and getting things done so I would I would say it's a pretty safe back.
Again with moving that magazine and assault -- in pieces out of it that it could could likely -- -- -- -- -- When you're talking about changing that constitutional right -- -- really have the highest scrutiny and you have to have the most employed so I think with the fair and honest debate -- -- every legislator number one number two.
That the Schumer goes out it's not gonna pass the -- mentioned bill I think a pass.
Is -- not insisting extremely slight but what the -- -- would do is that this is Joseph mansion a conservative Democrat.
Pat Toomey -- a conservative Republican have come up with this idea.
To expand the background check to all commercial transactions.
Not only as of now is -- dealers but also with a gun shows anything on the Internet anything if you even put an ad in the newspaper.
That you have to go to a background track on the other hand of his between friends or family no background.
That's that's the case and that then what you just said -- but the second part and being able to give it to your kid.
Given to a friend and those kind of personal relationships is important.
I think it passes a 6870.
-- so you'll hear the good news and -- that are not based on my conversations -- my colleagues yeah.
And an important thing no federal registry of those sales that you keeps records at the you know at that point of sale the gun store whatever -- the are the they don't show but there's no federal registry -- those which is really important and and it's amazing how tone deaf people like Schumer are.
To people's concerns about there being a national federal registry law.
-- ask you about one other question before we go on this -- and that is the question of presidential.
Action went when this first Tappan new town and the president began to push Joseph Califano was a top aide to Lyndon Johnson talked about what they did.
And I believe was in 1968 after the assassination of Bobby Kennedy.
And he said we got ten day.
We've got to get going on this and are on intent actually I'm I'm not sure may have been after the assassination of Jack Kennedy but it would at some point after horrific thing -- that we got ten days to do this.
And and he felt at that time this is in December that even though you have to fiscal.
Cliff and all of those budget issues.
That the president should -- should -- brought this up and tried to get -- through.
It was at a fever pitch to demand for gun control -- this president.
Wait too long that we're now a hundred plus days out.
Well I think so but it's also a different president people and whether you like to Lyndon Johnson just like Lyndon Johnson you had confidence in his ability to cut a deal he was he when he -- -- Capitol -- working institutional relationships.
Allowed him to pick up the phone call Everett Dirksen or calls somebody -- Richard Russell on the democratic side and make things happen this president has no similar set of relationships.
Even on the democratic side to allow him to do so he is.
He is forced to do things like loading up Air Force One with the new -- families and bring them to abortion to do his work on his behalf.
And it's interesting we talked about three cent a couple substantive immigration guns the success on the is is going to be determined by their distance from the president.
Not by their closeness for the president by having other people draft him and not the president.
No it certainly -- immigration reform that all the dynamics that stay out of this at this plant ever is called the Obama plan its debt right.
Thank you panel check in with us throughout the -- let us know what you think about the fate of gun -- -- -- my Monday edition of Wallace -- you can find it right here at FOX News Sunday dot com.
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