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What -- standardized tests our nation's schools be a thing of the past -- greatly reduced in importance some lawmakers in Texas are saying yes that's why they are close to passing a bill.
That would reduce the number in the exams students must -- to -- a high school diploma.
That number plummeting from fifteen to five.
The -- reduce the number of required years of science and math education as well that's a good idea or does that.
Lowering of standards joining us now is the Texas commissioner of education Michael Williams special Ames thanks a lot for joining us.
Sort of needed corrective to too many tests or is it what it looks like lowering standards.
Unfortunately it is a retreat from the great wisdom that the -- legislative shown over the last decade -- Saying that would there's a body because we want to youngsters to be the restaurant.
Who -- -- should be able to.
Develop river in math and science -- it was arts and social studies unfortunately.
This looks as if it is -- indeed Richard.
Well it's a little ironic considering the amount of noise one hears about Americans lagging test scores in science and math in the need to beef the -- you hear this a lot from.
The education secretary Arne Duncan for example.
Now was not the time to be lowering our math and science requirements isn't.
Would not disagree with you at all of it and we've seen grapefruit and there's been borne by Texas students over the last decade and a half.
Because the state raised the level of expectations for youngsters.
We've seen our our high school graduation rate increase we seem to know were youngsters who were taking.
-- -- sales increased particularly among poor minority students all because we raised Grigory an expectation.
So you won't raise expectations and people meet them so there but there are there are thoughtful people I I will say I have met them.
Who weren't crazy weren't -- for lower standards.
But you do a problem for standardized testing I wanna play a clip of some people who been protesting it.
In your state Texas.
My wife's a school teacher that you couldn't be here today because she's teaching kids -- -- Let's take companies like Pearson publishing companies that are multi million dollar company.
Didn't make standardized test companies make money charter schools make money and the kids are the ones who suffer.
So what about that what about this teaching to the test line -- by that.
What equipment they're -- and -- keeping in mind what is what is the bottom of what we have tomorrow and the second how many tests should they -- Should -- you'll just take fifteen and of course exams and high school.
Perhaps not should -- be as low was three or four I don't think so so -- the numbers probably somewhere in the middle somewhere around you know 67 to eight.
But I think that the into the day it was about forty -- -- left in this listening session they'll get it right.
-- so there is we can -- Rather than rolling it all back I mean is -- -- way to cut down the number of standardized test but to keep the standard -- -- that's the point.
I think I think you I think you do both being viewed to -- -- by.
Making sure that our youngsters -- four years of rigorous math and science things like -- social studies right then you can reduce the number of tests.
From may be somewhere around fifteen or somewhere mid mid range -- eight to win each of -- the subject dieters tend to assume it may have to in science Sunni Muslim Ozarks it was alleged.
Sounds sensible to me mister Michael Williams of Texas thanks up and coming I appreciate it.
You'd -- would you think you.
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