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I want -- -- Tara Murtha she is with the Philadelphia weekly as senior writer she won the -- Pennsylvania newspapers are seen as a singer songwriter award and -- 112012 and when he thirteen.
And also an instructor at Temple University -- thank you coming on the program you have been covering.
The story of the -- -- clinic for for ever since this story broke correct.
-- -- yeah I think my first story was about a couple weeks after the grand jury report was published in June putting a -- -- I wanna get into -- more specifically asserted -- off the -- here but I didn't get into the whole thing with you but I I was on Fox News earlier today -- the premise was that.
The liberal media has been trying to cover this up.
Which is not exactly true salon has talked about and they link to NPR and the nation and CBS it covered it in 2011 it turns out.
There was a gag order on the lawyers up until very recently.
And I stated by -- quoting -- Alex Seitz Wald in salon.
That Michelle Malkin rarely mentioned it once and that -- -- and Michelle Malkin had not really covered it much.
So they start a flame war against -- Twitter.
And then I finally said look I'm sorry every she said it more than I thought and I misquoted.
Salon with two point salon was making was that.
Michelle Malkin and many conservatives suddenly.
Start attacking the liberal media so -- liberal media for not doing any coverage on it.
When almost nobody was covering it very much before march of this year but you terror we're covering it all along it didn't get much national attention.
Until Kirsten Powers and USA today which is a mainstream publication rude about it last week.
-- what you know about this story and and where is this going -- this guy's in big trouble obviously -- he should.
Well BI I gotta say I think that it is certainly has covered it more being -- it being a local.
Start your Philadelphia evidently what they're saying it was an initial story as if the liberals somehow kept it quiet for fear that their.
You know their attitude -- well because -- pro -- -- are afraid that the pro lifers are gonna use this.
-- -- How we shouldn't have a -- in this country that's really what there -- again.
Play it certainly didn't get the blackout -- -- -- if you have a search engine and you know an interest in fact you can -- that stuff that I even the idea that I can kind of liberal.
You know media conspiracy to depressed and that's or the as a conservative third victim of of this process in the media considered I can tell you I attended.
-- operation rescue traveled to Pennsylvania to hold meetings specifically in the weekends I've found that grand jury report.
And -- -- that meeting in April 2011 -- in.
You know is it kind of does now -- called.
A god given opportunity.
Now I don't know what kind of you know -- really didn't -- Saturday.
Alleged to be Carol killer and -- drug traffickers.
Any type of opportunity -- god would provide -- He -- so.
So that the goal of conservatives in the right wing has been.
To use -- exploit the -- now case in the media you know it's becoming architects of that and positioning themselves as good as the victim is just part of that.
Right but they didn't do much covered but either until lately and I actually -- from from a pro choice angle.
This is why abortions and I say this early today on fox is why they should stay legal safe and rare and it turns out that if the accusations are true -- of this was not none of those -- -- there's nothing there's nothing about.
His operations that that resembled.
You know regular.
Regular regulated to and -- Health care services let -- he's facing charges from from the anti drug trafficking and from everything.
The illegal abortions the actual murders that -- organization.
You know there is nothing resembling.
The imminent attack and had a broad individual here.
Right and isn't it true that part and one of the things you've talked about in the Philadelphia weekly is because -- -- abortion abortion laws because of those restrictive laws.
That's one of the things that feeds clients to people like us now.
Assuring it ashamed that he -- that this sudden explosion that's it's national interest from the journalists who had previously dismissed either ignored the story before you know trying to happier -- Is that in that period of time.
You know something I've been reporting on is the the legislation that was passed in Gaza -- -- in Pennsylvania and his -- been used on the on how floors and in other states like Virginia as well.
-- there have similar legislation that resulted in shutting down from critics.
What kind of laws that had nothing to do with a -- like the rooms have to be a certain size doctors have to be accredited hospitals.
And the whole goal a goal of these laws is to reduce -- to -- is to put these clinics out of business the clinics and actually do it legally which only drives people to people like us now.
Right in any of the plan that's been outlined didn't you know is -- payments dissidents in the -- -- in the -- launched a long term strategic plan to over regulate clinics out as the existence and that the very got millions strategy frankly does now one of those but more -- -- and about his business.
He was an enterprising capitalists -- more money you had.
More painkillers you -- choose your own.
For the -- but he had -- more pain your body latent killer and that strategy upbeat and a lot big picture strategy of shutting down these -- Why did the authorities in Philadelphia look the other way seems like there wasn't due diligence on his clinic.
There was not there -- the complex matrix of oversight failure on the Philadelphia department of health for the Pennsylvania department of health.
-- local hospitals to.
Would and get some of these patients after they'd -- infections.
From procedures that his clinic you know they were exposed to report to.
That kind of thing as well you know and that's what's that's what's startling about -- about the cases as it did not one.
And and it that they did not one particular organization -- this this kind of complex matrix.
Overseeing failure not to enforcing the laws.
Already you know that -- on the -- Which I don't I think I was looking for the phrase for the -- was that this regulate room size statistical -- laws -- right thing.
Well believe it.
Very -- -- but we're mandated to upgrade to its ambulatory surgical facility guidelines under the guidelines that -- created for.
Ambulatory surgical centers.
And they wee -- referred to -- trap plug for targeted regulation of abortion providers.
He does not that this familiar to some of the teach.
Because millions of people and in the gun debate as well you know being concerned attacked did happen to me -- restrictions on access and something.
That it's it's logistically impossible -- it doesn't really matter if it's it's legal or not.
We have written for example the Philadelphia had twenty freestanding abortion clinics and after these laws five clinic stopped offering surgical abortions altogether.
And they'll offer medical abortions in other words by a pill.
And one -- that when Pittsburgh area clinic shut down entirely.
And you say the remaining fourteen embarked on navigating a Byzantine process -- by the negotiated requirements and waivers but the Pennsylvania board of health.
I just amazing the board of health commissioner didn't they knew about us now and look the other way.
-- there are multiple complaints Philadelphia is now health commissioner doctor Donald sort of was doctor at the time who says that he hand delivered.
A complaint -- in Pennsylvania department health aspect and as well.
Confident many flags and that there is a deductible one -- -- well an insurance claim on and on her behalf and that for the women.
That's not so that -- -- -- he is being charged for her brain now.
He's only being charged for firm munger.
That there is another woman -- Prior to that.
-- when they bring charges and apparently there were allegations of many more deaths beside.
One adult that is being charged in this particular case there were allegedly others and allegedly many more babies.
Why are they nothing charged.
Let it matter what they have -- scientific evidence for.
If not his -- -- based on -- the remains to be found on sites the grand jury report alleges that projects.
The basic aspect.
Maybe it's so great now they have that you -- tactic -- was one woman -- a murder 11 minute set and eighties.
Do they have for let you know referring to has science gone.
And five are are both of them.
And there's witnesses saying that these babies -- viable before they were murdered.
We're everywhere -- -- -- court case now we we and we we we expected to be going and win.
I have not been in trial every day like.
Pats organization you know -- it definitely got the resources for me to that the trial every day I did get over the opening arguments.
So we're entering the fifth -- and keeping up and to put up inquires covering it every day in -- -- -- in America.
Pitch it's expected to wrap up in the next two to three weeks I believe and then after that he still need to be drug trafficking charges from the -- What's amazing is his own lawyer says well OS in the -- clinic and maybe he didn't do everything right but.
His own lawyers have -- -- time defending.
-- -- yet but it -- pretty program 300 page report if you if you.
And it in his defense is an interesting line it is his lawyer Jack -- allege that the prosecution exculpatory as.
Where -- and then argued that -- financial or he might not have been the best to doctor.
But he shouldn't expect to Mayo Clinic standards and a poor neighborhood it left Philadelphia which is because it and it felt pretty pretty obligation -- -- I think gradually other words and it.
And and the work you're doing it's important story -- people can get the Philadelphia weekly you know everything is national coverage navigation get the -- Werth of Philadelphia weekly and Tara -- is.
Columns on line.
Thank you very much for talking it was my -- -- -- -- -- thanks so much.
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