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Is the scene shortly after terrorist attack in Boston Massachusetts yesterday.
Several dead and dozens injured some vary greatly.
And this is power play and I and Chris tire war.
And today the nation is trying to collect itself trying to collect -- thoughts after the first.
Large scale terrorist attack.
Some other than the Fort Hood massacre.
In the United States since September 11.
And where do we go from here.
What does it mean.
What about the next one we will discuss that and more today as we join you and the effort to try to bring some clarity and sense to -- senseless moment.
We will do that we will talk also about the consequences.
Of how this moment.
Will change the discussion in Washington has.
Congress and others are still with their plates groaning with a big big list of things to do.
Are trying to put this in perspective to and we will also be joined by congressman Robert -- from the Tar Heels.
North Carolina we will do all of that.
With the patriotic sense.
And we have fortunately to do that you know David -- he is.
Of roll call very tough.
And he is a good friend of this Internet how -- we thank you for making -- there's -- updated of course.
Now and -- by way of introduction of your other friend Garland knicks now.
We mostly talk to Garland about politics because he's a radio show -- -- to -- PFW.
His name of the left is a Democrat proudly but he also happens to be a long term.
-- serve for a long time.
In law enforcement in the state of Maryland and in the work of doing that Garland got extensive.
Knowledge and abilities as it comes to dealing with large scale events like a marathon or things like that when it comes to providing security.
So we're gonna talk to Garland about that and more -- All right so let's start with this now let's start with you Garland.
The discussion today something that we hadn't talked about in the United States.
For a long time maybe five years was that before that every large scale event that we went and David you know this from living in Washington -- Everything every event whether it be -- cherry blossom festival fourth of July fireworks everything he's saying.
Is this the time that this is gonna happen and we really live that 445 years in America not just in Washington but across the country every big event that you went to.
Is this the one where something that is going to happen and do you think that.
-- -- as citizens I think a lot of it's got complacent you think that there was complacency not necessarily in Boston -- do you think law enforcement across the country's got more complacent about these -- threats.
No I don't expect.
You know I worked on the moments security review -- under governor of the state of Maryland that's.
It's a few years ago.
And I -- people who still work in them only as accurate security community and they are as vigilant as ever now there was that it and and if you talk to if you listen to the the spectators and people and seen every one -- Unanimously agrees that there was a very very heavy security presence the fact of the matter is.
And and edit and in law enforcement everyone recognizes because of the level of freedom that we had in the level of liberty we have in this country you can.
Work to stop these things but the option for a person to do it and particularly the fewer people involved the easier it is for -- to do it the option is always there where it was for me -- the time.
OK let's take a quick listen president Obama's making some remarks right now the White House stimulus.
-- And brought way they have thus far and their fellow Americans will be right there what.
Thank you very much and you can expect.
Further briefings from all our law enforcement officials.
The day goes on.
When we have more details they will be disclose.
What I've indicated to you is what we know now.
We know was.
Bombs that were set off we know that.
Obviously they did some severe damage we do not know who -- them.
We did not know whether this is active organization or an individual or individuals.
We don't have a sense of motive yet.
So everything else at this point to speculation.
We received more information as the FBI has more information is our counterterrorism teams have more information.
We will make sure to keep you and the American people close to our thank you were much servers -- -- today with the president's not going to be taking questions David.
Now we heard there the president before we joined him the president did is use the word terrorism talk about it being an act of terrorism.
Said the FBI was investigating didn't know who said we don't know yet whether this former domestic or what the nature of it is but.
Were notice I notice there but David an evolution of tone at the White House yesterday.
Yesterday sort of to keep -- and carry on.
Not using the -- word and sort of like let's see what happens this sounded more.
For lack of a better phrase bush like.
In -- that you know.
Coming out saying the word multiple times and talking about going after it does this do you think is this a natural progression.
I'm not sure yet I want -- See -- the president handles this thing as we continue to move forward what I can get oil Wilson we've discussed this that the president I don't think has always done.
And during his tenure a good job.
Being able to say that this was an act.
Even though we don't have all the answers yet at times he seemed to want to downplay the idea.
That it could have been terror related or that -- his administration somehow.
Maybe wasn't doing everything it should have in this case in -- started yesterday and I think -- actress who sought.
Here with these remarks.
The president has been very willing and very quick to say that obviously was an act of terror we don't know who committed to terror or why.
But I -- and I think he's Smart.
To not say things not in evidence that he doesn't know because it's not good when the president's wrong that only makes things worse.
But what he's -- channel channeling.
The countries needed to get on top of this in he's assuring everybody that he's going to find out what happened.
And I think that's really all Americans want they want the president to say what it was enough -- it wasn't and then go ahead and figure it out and if he continues to do this I think is getting an unmarked sport people know that things happen when people are president.
It's really about that how you react.
We're hearing now that as any lawyer.
Who is that.
In him in -- press briefing has said that -- it's who perplexing said that the bus -- -- in his book proof.
That issues with the sequester as it relates to the intelligence community and sequestration is damaging proof of that proof is needed.
-- it doesn't take very long.
In Washington I mean basically it takes mean zero time.
Four things to become politicized and and all of that.
But I'm seeing.
I heard -- -- last night.
I've heard others on the right and objective -- journalists like -- record to also the president is doing.
A good job with this steady as she goes so far.
Do you think -- that -- inevitably headed towards political.
Pileup on this it.
Certainly an -- and it's really not applicable here for a number of reasons number -- keep in mind that the president's statements.
Are viewed -- idealistic people that are investigating this as a method to -- to not only the American people.
But the perpetrators they're watching this they're listening so part of what is seen whether it's by the government.
Law enforcement officials or anyone else involved that they're very careful that they don't say something to disrupt the investigation so that's it.
Part of -- so you know we really shouldn't be doing this right now.
Because we -- want to do anything to either in bold no further anger or them you know or or or do something that would that would upset the investigation.
What -- the perpetrators.
The -- on the question.
Congress tested it's actually really do anything about -- they can only think you know hearings they can issue state.
It's congress' -- the role for congress always comes later once we know what happened once we know why it happened.
We're so close -- that congress -- and pulled real hearings do some real investigating and at least try and see if there any policy.
Changes they could legislate.
That would make things.
Less likely to happen in the future and have got to -- -- if if Steny Hoyer was really blaming the sequestered for -- I think linking well yes you know I'd like to know how the White House feels about that because.
Even if people want to blame Republicans or any Democrats who supported the sequester ultimately the question is gonna go back the president say is this true.
And the president actually said yes true they're gonna say -- didn't want to allow to happen.
-- -- you sign it.
He's that he's the commander in chief right.
And you knew they would expect them to say is no.
I can't do this right because he couldn't use safe and we've talked about this viewer he could have used national security exemption to say this -- commands me to do this.
But I'm not going to and he could have done it there would have been diddly -- that congress could -- done about it that's true that vary typical house members to start -- before.
That's how they roll what they do and David Drucker and I both make a living -- that's okay.
But car when we're gonna let David go so -- can find out -- yapping about what would you stay with -- yes sir do you have your expertise yes OK good Internet.
Let's take a quick break and when we come back match -- Who knows a thing or two about public person -- in the wake of terror attacks.
From his time with George W.
Bush will be here and talk about that when we come back to stick around.
No words can express our sorrow families.
Today as a result -- have -- -- -- -- Our moment of silence for the Oval Office continues to parade for the victims and -- I know I woke up this morning with an eerie sense of reminder.
About how we can all be.
So vulnerable that the possibility of evil and tragedy.
Occurring is number real.
-- the top two Republicans in the House of Representatives at a press availability this morning talking about.
Boston Marathon bombing and this is powered by and welcome back.
Political Washington is ill equipped we're dealing with moments like this.
Because most of what is required from elected officials.
Is too and not do anything.
And to be quiet which is often the very hardest thing.
And you saw there that and Boehner and cantor and we've heard this from many people who are good good at this work in Washington.
-- expressions of condolences.
And nothing more because it's certainly too soon it's certainly too -- for that.
But patent will this change the narrative of this change the discussion in Washington.
We will talk about that we will also talk about this question four commander in chief what kind of messaging do you want to be sending in moments like this.
Therefore we have brought for you.
The -- -- some -- he is of course former White House political director under president George W.
And -- and it is with us still met President Bush had to give a lot of statements.
-- one President Obama gave this morning in the what you did yesterday.
When your crafting and you're thinking about messaging in a moment like this what are you thinking.
Love you never Chris first -- Hughes gave a statement.
And bush President Bush -- statement which was gladly pay and -- -- -- -- Washington right away which was likely -- and no it all the data for responsible reasons and eventually.
-- that he was coming back.
It made a statement that he was much more comfortable with and -- -- -- was comfortable with his voice from that day many minutes -- forward.
Forward so it's tricky for -- as they don't have a lot of information and we noticed a lot of information Rochester granted ever.
Real suspect -- they grasping at straws.
But I think the one thing.
You can look to at a time like this dispute with that well.
-- only did it well program previously was Rudy Giuliani.
With 9/11 and I also think Jeb Bush with her -- after hurricane after hurricane.
He'd be there it is polo -- little sweat on the brow -- telling people what he knew even if he didn't know what a lot.
And that's what I would say that this White House.
Have -- FBI director Louis RBI director have your chief -- -- security experts have them out talking about.
Things they put people -- east but also make sure people take the proper precautions.
Now in terms of how public psychology and you know this from law enforcement.
When people don't have information.
So information can.
Harm and hurt when the public knows things.
Whitman especially if they know the wrong things.
You can have a lot of problems because people will do the wrong stuff will be harder to manage -- public place to be harder to do things.
In terms of public awareness public knowledge what should people be here what -- the administration be talking about right now.
Well they admitted they there's two separate tracks here and that is number one -- certainly have to do things to -- people to.
-- to lower the level of fear because there's going to be kind of an an Indians.
Kind of an eight but the Specter of horror and and and and terror.
Throughout the population so they have to do.
A lot of call mean since calling statements however -- they want to reassure people.
However they do you have to we do have to keep in mind and and everyone's watching these statements in this.
That what's being -- is very critical to the investigation.
It came up.
Reiterate that enough it's critical what they're saying particularly when they don't know who it is what the motivations.
One of the mistakes that's often made in the media is that we say their motivations are to scare us.
Oftentimes it's for any number reason could the policy change they can view themselves as some military arm of their group -- could simply be revenge.
Could be any number of things the effect.
Is that they scare us that's not necessarily the motivation.
Now we have seen -- here we have been spared.
And protected from.
In two successive administrations from attacks like this.
We haven't had -- -- large scale domestic.
Grown terror attack since 1995 September 11.
Now an astonishingly twelve years ago seems like just yesterday.
In in terms is in terms what.
The effect on the American people -- the American polity is we have -- examples in London.
With their subway bombing.
And in Madrid with their train bombing they had similar things there.
In Spain it caused a dramatic.
Dramatic change change -- over policy banning mango.
They got a new national government I've got out of the Iraq War change their -- -- -- that stuff is this something that won't be changing moment for America.
I don't know it's a great question I think it's gonna depend on who we find out is the perpetrators here.
But I think you know great credit has to be given to the first responders and folks in law enforcement who -- to see it safer shelters -- often use the analogy that.
We knew we had to be the ultimate goal we had to catch every pocket we know in that sport you don't.
You'll score a lot but it just takes one to really change people's lives in -- the devastation like.
What occurred yesterday -- -- -- I think we ought to give President Bush and Dick Cheney a lot of credit Dick Cheney is considered scary indoor theater to a lot of people he's also -- -- -- tears right.
-- his credit he doesn't he doesn't just tried to Democrats this is a good bet that is true okay so.
And I wanna get -- -- from both of you guys and it's this.
Men and we'd see the what's going on in Washington and very practical way back immigration gun control budgets all of these other things.
Do you think and to to -- -- certainly depends on who's behind this.
Will this ultimately be disruptive to what's going on -- -- if you are.
As I said one of the big things this year you know fear takes over often you know we get emotional we don't think -- clearly and I think.
This year will be used by one side or another if not both to try to influence policy -- -- -- Matt what's -- -- -- I think this -- -- -- -- it turns -- that these perpetrators -- -- some -- -- Isa -- and I think -- You know it is just.
And fortunately get a stop a lot of things that -- -- that at some progress as we reorient our parents.
He's right it's true they're -- gun bill also you know.
Reminds people -- our our biggest problem fear fear fear people are afraid in the act differently.
They're both right they know stuff that's why we had them for -- thanks guys for being with this summer today.
All right guys.
You guys we're going to take a quick break when we come back we're gonna talk to congressman Robert -- and you're from North Carolina.
We'll talk -- about this issue will also talked about some of that legislation do when we come back.
-- There's no law that anyone could -- certainly not this one.
That's ever going to guarantee.
Bet they determine criminal won't be able to obtain a weapon one way or another or that maybe even -- mentally ill person may not be able to.
Obtain a weapon and eventually if they're sufficiently determined.
But can't we take a very modest step to make it more difficult.
If we can do it in a way that does not infringe on the Second Amendment Rights of the law abiding citizens.
That was senator Pat Toomey.
Republican from Pennsylvania.
On the floor of the senate yesterday talking about -- -- Bipartisan.
Nominally a bipartisan plan.
That he has with senator Jim mentioned much continued to expand background checks for.
Criminals and the dangerously mentally ill.
-- gun purchases and this is our clients.
And we are gonna talk about that here but first.
And we're gonna talk about it with congressman Robert -- juror.
From North Carolina welcome congressman.
Before we get to pending legislation in congress I want to talk to.
First you get your response -- what happened in Boston yesterday I understand that you've been in touch with a constituent -- -- -- Yes -- it's very -- can this morning.
He was there at the marathon.
With -- sister and sister in law and I.
Both of them sister sister -- -- -- receivers.
Perhaps loss of -- it's.
A sad moment and very treacherous -- A and I'm sure -- More information as.
Available -- you feel did you guys are being adequately kept in the loop on new development.
Yes I do I think -- -- every investigation being.
And I have confidence.
That -- we will pursue these contractors people find out who they are asking.
All right now moving on to.
Businesses still in front of congress we're seeing a lot.
A discussion and maybe some momentum maybe not in the senate.
Where this meeting to me.
A gun law.
That would expand background checks but we're hearing a lot of skepticism.
From your fellow Republicans in the house.
About it making its way through both chambers what's your assessment.
For one would be from.
What -- making meaningful difference.
I've never been one to the chest and saying.
Try to grandstand.
I don't question the sincerity.
Of those who are pushing the legislation right now but I'm not certain that has affected.
Recently and we have serious issues that catches -- far -- We have no health issues I've worked champs and in my district.
Working within the country out how weak it make available to -- in the -- health information without affecting privacy.
We can't allow these tanks and weapons you.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- About violence.
In the media is it has been those -- -- -- in the -- These are serious underlying pervasive concerns that impact what's happening in our country.
-- -- out all the -- in the world to do the background checks for right now we've got the best -- 7000 violations.
What do you do as well -- people who.
Unstable people who would grab a night like -- -- in Texas houses legislation and -- -- that's not saying that the prevailing underlying current.
Parents mental health and violence are issues and I don't think we can avoid.
I think it's pretty disingenuous to believe that we can pass a bill right now we're gonna have a long term effect.
Home address this problem.
It was new to me a bipartisan group looking.
Two we're what is described as fiscal -- tell us a little bit about that.
Yes sir that's emerged.
Many -- as we -- -- freshman.
-- my colleague in the -- -- pat Murphy back coach here this.
And we look for ways that we can find common ground work together we wrote a letter had 36 of our freshman colleagues the bipartisan signed a letter to the president.
Into the congressional leadership imploring them to address the -- The -- -- dead as the biggest economic challenges we hand -- enormous weight in terms of our country in the future generations and we've got to address it.
And we've got to look toward what we can do it entitlements the Medicare to try to address it then another cost saving opportunities.
So these the kind of things we've advanced and I'm very proud.
A working together very cooperative why -- -- Democrat colleagues in the.
I -- an elephant.
One -- at a time who are likely to.
What I did not far right -- -- thank you very much for your time and I have a good day.
Thank you got us.
That -- you.
OK Internet -- -- points that it really feel up to it quite frankly in light of what happened today in Boston.
So just one point for you today and that's this and those people who run towards danger instead of running away from it give me more hope.
-- the anger and fear that is nurtured inside of me when I've -- attack like that so I'm so grateful.
To those who view in this world who who do -- irrational thing and run towards danger instead of away from -- we thank you for that.
And on the -- with Jonathan Hunt is up next and now as we'd like to do every day.
We want to leave you with the word from our friendships.
Of course it's no way near the scale.
Of 9/11 but it's the first time.
And I think that is sort of the historical -- -- that -- feeling and it reminds us how vulnerable we felt.
At the beginning of this whole decade of terror and that even though we thought we had largely escaped and we have largely escaped.
It is still out there.
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