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This is why we come together and a time like this that's people of faith.
To go beyond the immediate -- mention of terror and death and walls.
And to elevate our eyes to that sacred sphere.
Please it's there and that is the scene in Boston.
-- mourning nation looks on.
For a memorial service to those who were killed.
And for those who were wounded -- more than 100 -- wounded.
In a terror attack on the Boston Marathon and this is our class -- high and Chris -- -- -- expect the president to speak soon.
We'll have full coverage of that.
We will let we will talk about the ramifications.
What's going on and what's not going on.
In the investigation of Boston bombing.
We will do that we will talk about.
The first setback to the president's second term agenda.
As Democrats joined with Republicans in blocking his call.
For gun control measures we will also talk about the complications.
That are growing and it says president -- to implement his signature legislative achievements.
His health care law from twenty and we will do all of that today.
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The extra maladies in the Internet qualities both of what's been going on in Boston welcome brother and it's true -- I'm good I'm OK it's a sad day.
But it's it's -- I wrote yesterday I talked about the longer.
We go with out developments in this case and the longer it could be anything because we're still sort of at the point where it could be anything -- Could be domestic it could before it could be Islamist it could be anti government it could be we don't know writes the longer this goes on.
Everybody's tents because they don't know whether they are higher or lower on an attack last Everett yesterday.
If you're organizing the -- -- marathon that's taking place Saturday.
You'd be more concerned if there was -- -- not but if you were organized in Oklahoma City.
Marathon which take place tomorrow right you'd be more conservative it was a domestic but everybody's anxious.
And people are pulling -- each other politically the already fractious nature of of the American -- is yanking at each other extras nobody knows what's what.
I think that's exactly right -- and I think -- the that this tension is compounded by the fact that we know.
We have so much information about the potential perpetrators.
It's just not yet surfaced or at least hasn't surfaced publicly so we know for instance that there were literally tens of thousands of people.
Who were at the finish line we know for instance that there were dozens of television news cameras capturing what was happening.
At the finish line we know that there were presumably thousands of people -- cellphone cameras taking still pictures recording video.
-- and it's just a matter of piecing this altogether and we'll have a much better picture but we've had so much.
-- information and misinformation about who who these.
Perpetrators potentially weren't whether we have pictures of them whether they're in custody whether they're not.
It's just been confusion in public and I think to a certain extent it reflects confusion behind the scenes.
Well it and -- it was a real dog's breakfast because.
You've had the associated press and others came -- said.
We have arrests in the case.
This is happening people are swarming the courthouse here we go out and then you heard.
Never mind right and you know as we were -- trying to sort this all out it was very -- confusing now I'm not complaining because that's the nature of what we do that's that's that's that's part of our job is is to be conflict this stuff and find out what's going on.
But you can feel a certain anxiety Thursday after yesterday it's sort of like where are we are.
That's right right I think that's exactly right and look.
You know without -- getting ahead ahead of ourselves here I do think it's it's the case that there was a considerable -- -- behind the scenes confusion.
I'm with in the law enforcement community both federal and local.
Within the intelligence community here and -- -- I think people were hearing sometimes conflicting stories about who was in custody and who was not I think.
There -- questions about whether we had names at a certain point yesterday.
In the afternoon.
That that may have sent you some in the intelligence community scrambling trying to verify things.
This is a fluid situation the stories Cheney behind scenes stories changing.
In public and I think until -- as you pointed out until we.
No more and can say things definitively.
It's gonna cause people I think you know a lot of consternation I am surprised just as -- as a final IE I'm surprised that it.
We haven't seen these pictures from.
Law enforcement authorities.
Let me put it slightly finer point we may have seen.
The pictures from law enforcement but we wouldn't know because we've seen one million pictures right and we're being told well it's not.
This is not these people -- he's -- -- -- we don't know and because we have all of these images that are floating around out there in the Internet.
You are you you are -- problems over sometimes but you also caused considerable consternation.
That were you I can't remember from your.
Bio from your ResMed -- any local news reporter.
-- not specifically well let me tell you something that I was getting between ages of yesterday.
Which was when there'd be a big crime story or big court story break when -- you know I used to cover cops and courts and all that stuff and people who don't know any thing.
Attention and involvement and I had a call from somebody.
In who was -- A person close to the Republican leadership in the house saying well I don't know any thing but I heard this and I wanted to -- Saddam.
And by that point what they were -- -- then substantially discredited and you know we talked about it.
But what's interesting is and this happens with cops on the beat and this happens with investigators this happens all the time people -- -- be in the story right.
It's like I heard from a guy in the locker room right exactly -- so now you have it's a sort of and the Internet.
-- it a geometric.
Mutation of news right and remember this.
Having two sources who -- from the same person is not the same as seventy sources that's is having one -- twice.
And end in Twitter I think amplifies those that he you know early messages and and sort of accelerates the schedule of all of this in the reporting of all of this and if you see something on Twitter and you hear from -- -- you know.
In the minds of some people is that is that source second source corroboration and it certainly isn't for me but.
Am I -- you know it's that kind of desire to make this all happened quickly and again all against the backdrop of our knowledge and understanding that we have so much raw information there is so much -- -- whether it's from surveillance videos or whether it's.
From still photographs that have been submitted from -- by people who were at the scene we know that there's so much there there's so much that's potentially get a -- And yet we don't yet have those answers.
All right so what are you expecting today what do you -- do you view that but -- -- good sources of intelligence community.
What do you think what do you think today's breakthrough day or do you think that you think we're close to hearing -- well I mean I have thought.
And you know really for each of the past -- days that at any moment we would be given the public -- -- riding with surveillance footage of -- somebody dropping a bag.
Looking suspicious in that they would have zeroed in on a person -- in a couple of people.
And asked for our help and I am surprised that was set up a bit perplexed that they haven't yet done the explanation that it would cost the person to go to ground because they've yet thought that they were being looked at.
Let me tell you something if you did this you know you're you know you're being -- -- -- this is what this is what I think is a little perplexing is.
That explanation which is what I think a lot of us are getting from authorities.
It doesn't the war that's not the reason you would withhold this there might be other reasons but I you know it's it's hard and I haven't been given any of them authoritative.
-- -- pretty quick break when we come -- please stay with -- look okay he should he shouldn't but he will because he's a good guy.
But when we come back we're gonna talk -- challenges and implementing president Obama's health law.
We'll do that when we come back -- correct.
Huge train wreck -- and -- you know I've discussed this many times.
And I don't see any results yet.
But -- he's a -- he's a senator from the great state.
-- and and he also happens to be a big shot big time big deal Democrat.
Leading as he does Senate Finance Committee.
And I think that's right yes he leads the Senate Finance Committee.
And he was there talking to Kathleen Sebelius she's -- secretary of health and human services and the train -- he was talking about.
Was on the implementation of the president's health law.
This is power play now here's the deal that we've talked about this before it's the only people who can make you a lame duck as a second term president for the people in your own part.
Doesn't happen until they do it the other guys are always against you.
But it doesn't happen until the people in your own party saying.
That -- -- who didn't just upgrade Sebelius about the implementation -- -- autistic.
He also voted against.
Everything on offering the president's package on gun control.
And he is one of a number of Democrats who are.
Getting increasingly brazen about openly being and it's contagious with the president.
Steve -- has been tracking for a long time the question of what's happening with the president's health club but also.
With and we need to get a graphic for the lame -- -- meter.
At what point you know for George W.
Bush he went from like zero to a hundred it was the day that they -- Social Security it was like never mind and the blue.
For Obama -- it seems to be happening more gradually.
That this health law is a big part of -- -- more and more Democrats are coming out and they're doing it from the left and the right right on the left -- saying what you're.
-- -- gut entitlements in the budget anyway and your your ball isn't going into place and then moderates like baucus are saying.
Well your you know I like this in theory but you're just not doing it right I.
I think he can I think the president can can get the last.
In line because ultimately he is the president who has governed from the -- didn't try -- he didn't get to -- -- he is their guy that's where he comes from I think he's gonna have much more trouble particularly as we've talked about before here.
Heading -- -- fourteen elections with red state Democrats who are not eager to defend the president and what he's done and when -- can't simulate Max Baucus.
-- is not a bit player in the passage of obamacare he was at the center of that some people have called them and architect he was certainly the architect of east of the fiscal component exact at this exact gotten any help Ellis right yes yes and and it helps -- made the numbers work.
Helped make sure that that moderate Democrats would would get onboard -- The irony to me the great irony to me -- when he's calling this trader in effect what he's doing is validating the concerns that conservatives.
Raised before what does the law was passed -- -- -- look all of these things that people warned about are in fact coming true and you know.
Who would have ever predicted that things -- -- so poorly it would be like who grew.
Be like the guy who's gonna do it -- heard of bees getting -- all over the case.
And -- with a beekeeper I was told the bee keeper would have a better frame smoke would be -- minutes -- every.
Because a peer to these lists if let's just say executed poorly -- to these as these very unfortunate truth and I'm not what I came out of it and it keeps it -- -- It forever and it works perfectly and it's the perfect -- that your biggest we'll do want to live with these guys next time he's up there so it's an Steve.
-- boo yeah on the panel tonight.
I would not in the panel and where can people see you next and I made a video we have standard -- of us in about.
2030 minutes and going to be unhappy and now I guess scout I I get I guess you could multitasking and -- -- -- and continue to watch the live stream here -- -- -- foxnews.com and do that because it's worth it to get every bit of case.
-- -- or another two days before it gets in your case of the TVs which is a danger you'd you'd use a smaller -- he would use a big fan of the president and anticipate being stoned to death of course you'd be ready for a -- -- gonna take a quick break when we come back our panel will be here.
To talk about that vote.
On gun legislation we'll talk about that we'll talk about more and we'll -- very special.
We'll have we'll have a poetic we'll have a we'll have a reversal of policy.
When we come back system for a.
So all in all this was very pretty shameful -- -- Washington.
This however does not over in the human.
Improved as a visibly angry President Obama expressing his displeasure with a bipartisan vote to block.
Gun control measures in the United States senate.
And this is power play welcome back now this is the first test of president Obama's second term -- Joseph and his plan.
To keep Republicans on the defensive leading up to mid term elections.
And also this is a a treasure gold.
For many people in the president's party especially in the wake of the -- shootings.
And other incidents of mass violence of late.
What does it portend for the future not just on this issue but the rest of the president's late in the second term.
We talk about that let's do.
You know Internet -- -- he is the former Press Secretary.
-- Roy Blunt.
He is from the yellow hammer state he -- good people he's a Republican welcoming us that you're much truth OK Julie -- geek she is a Fox News contributor she formerly called wolf what Jon Corzine thought about things.
I think she if she is Smart to truly go back.
Thanks thank you -- OK so here's the question.
And -- -- want to start with you.
You can't say that the president did everything he could to pass this a gunman.
Left a package of gun legislation but he did a lot right.
By the way but I sound weird there's a lot of feedback in my ear or I'm hearing voices -- -- the -- that day either way.
Either way did he you didn't know who the judges believe that's good because I don't think -- -- -- -- -- back whoever that that's great.
You can judge away all you want yeah I look he he PP trotted out everybody knew what it was new town the new town parents her wrath.
You know -- different sort of very poignant -- -- in your times today about how frustrated and angry she was about what happened yesterday but you know.
It's not just importance the president's party -- -- supports Democrats -- 90% of Americans supporting.
Very CO I would say miniscule thing gun control why is just expanding background checks not to everybody but gun -- -- closing certain loopholes.
You know if you can't even get together to do that then -- that's you know everything -- wrong we.
When you -- you don't in -- in this segment you.
I don't know do you just let -- to yes -- everything differently yeah and that's your smugly in the mother -- the New York City let me let me tell you how I judge you guys down there.
I don't know -- you have the majority of Americans supporting of majority of the senate supporting it and yet the -- fail.
That I don't encapsulate everything that's wrong with DC I don't know what's.
And it's gonna tell you something the script I wrote a column this the red column that -- there you go to see how brown knows there.
And I -- well.
Nothing has been hit it right and here's the other thing -- probably follows me -- -- -- -- I wrote on Twitter so that he knows what's up even before he comes on to talk about it I think and a -- to.
I would I would -- you eventually got but -- but the question -- -- that is.
For the president we had -- promise that said he was going to keep his troops in the field.
That the campaign than it ever was he he beat all the expectations he defied history he won eight he one day if not.
Resounding he won an ace us out to reelect him.
The reelection -- out of majority than many people expected he did an amazing thing in that way and he promised to carry this forward.
As they tried to apply it to this to the question of gun control it did not material.
It's -- I think what we saw yesterday Chris was a really highly emotional.
Waste of political capital and if you're gonna roll this out spent some time getting your troops together.
There right usually brought he brought the people who gallery he thought he could pass is certain but if -- -- -- -- senate Democrat right now and you look at the four who didn't vote with them.
There -- -- some tough votes you've got gun control you've got immigration immigration gay marriage coming up.
If you're -- -- and you're looking at next reelection you're looking at the president like please don't keep doing this to us we can't keep taking these votes and directly talk about it in -- home state.
Now -- the president says this is not over.
Harry Reid says it's not over but it kind of feels like it's over.
I it's over I think you you know you what you saw yesterday -- was so much -- and I am I'm curious as to how many people.
In places you know we talked about Democrats didn't vote -- anyway but I wondering -- for Heidi hike camp.
-- to be hearing today -- from a lot of your constituents are all pro Second Amendment that would -- all but I would say the majority of her constituents a prologue a lot aircraft -- Second Amendment.
People but you know as -- seven you have sending it as astoundingly popular.
As the background check bill was and to mean you know 9% of -- -- -- anything now that we can agree on whether or 90% of the time -- could be and then you've got you know so a lot of our constituents are gonna show up and say what the heck.
Happen like what what we think it.
It's not a profile -- courage for these Democrats or Republicans I am I don't -- give -- Gabby Giffords husband.
Made a very very good point which is of this were blind vote where these guys didn't have to pony up and put their names on it -- some capacity -- -- -- right.
I don't know about eighty votes out of -- what -- past drastically I think.
It it it it -- it sure would have gotten closer at least though there probably would have been some people that went the other way.
There's the question I have for you and that's and and and we saw this certainly.
Back in the days when your boss was weapon votes four Republican legislation.
And the Republicans on this planet George W Bush's second term.
Which is this win.
If the president can't make -- if he cannot say to the members of his own party do this or else.
And the -- else can be I won't help you win when you need help or.
View the big threat is always I can get -- you and -- primary I can come and get you.
That did not seem to be here evidenced by people like Mary Landrieu.
And mark baggage from Alaska and others that that this outrage that -- talked about on the west would manifest itself in primaries that there be priced at that.
Well Chris I think you know we -- in -- democracy in here -- -- from what I know it's crazy it's breaking news on Fox -- -- I hear senator from Alaska and you've got to take that vote can you take it the wrong way and he.
Julie heard about some outraged it's coming up today -- -- -- -- -- state after you've taken that vote the pursuit of Vegas I mean it's.
It's a democracy they're gonna have to run for reelection and I don't think there's any way you can take that type -- vote if you're -- -- -- Democrats from moderate or red states.
-- it's -- -- what is this what is this portend as we look ahead to other votes.
One of you guys mentioned immigration you know one of the challenges -- is on this legislation.
By the time it got to a vote it was not something that fired up the base it was something that people basically said not even this not even this -- -- get more concealed carry permits and there's no record captain even this can't pass.
Isn't going to be hard for the president to go -- so compromise legislation whether it's on immigration on a budget or something else to a base that that once more.
Well it depends -- much Republicans want to keep keeping whipping boys and immigration to me sending that I think a lot of Republicans have this massive come to Jesus moment as soon as they -- election returns.
Mean this is not anything that I believe that red state Republicans were voting on this -- even in the gang of eight.
Feel strongly about I think -- or I should say ideologically strongly about they just realized they got to win elections and you've got to.
You know has the Hispanic votes an important part of the vote.
And and so it's a -- give them based if they do an immigration what that Harry was able to -- -- guns.
Then they'll be taken out on them again two years from now and we'll keep losing I mean you can't continue to alienate.
And guns 90% of what people want.
On immigration what the vast majority of independents and then others want especially demographic like Latinos and Hispanics.
We can't continue to do that and they continue to pretend you're gonna win national elections he may -- your local congressional race.
But you're not gonna continue to win a stay and -- EST -- it actually CNN or certainly not a presidential.
And that's -- -- filer Scott Walker any of these guys are -- -- -- for president I would be sort of quietly calling my senator and saying you know let us through -- solid here because I'm not sure that I wanna be dealing with -- -- tears from now.
Those those who ever discount the importance of -- self interest in Washington.
Do -- -- -- Errol do you think we're we're no -- of underestimating your excellent we think thank you so much today and and it's you you're you're excellence is is also didn't know they -- -- -- these deaths in the Internet like two by two people on Twitter.
Are talking about this so this is good.
This is good and by the way here's what -- and -- whose frank I'm -- stream has been a little monkey.
Lately glad we're back in full power to -- just suggest that congress vote on -- bill that we the people know nothing about.
I want to know how my congressman.
Did you lose depends I don't think she was saying that would be a good idea frank I think she was saying that if it hadn't heard.
In secrecy it would've voted differently.
It is -- that probably true force the action legislation.
In Washington okay.
On the hunt with Jonathan Hunt that's up next -- like that I know that.
That's true fact but how about -- power -- first yes.
Ready to ride and spread the alarm.
To every Middlesex village and farm who does that -- -- -- it should because.
Here's your first PowerPoint the eighteenth of April and 75 it was on this date.
It's 1775 that Paul Revere made his famous ride as the British set out.
From Boston to go up and take care.
Of some -- some folks at north of town.
And it was a big deal and he promised ride.
Right right right later memorialized of course and and wonderful poem that you all hopefully still have to learn in school.
You better have to learn in school -- it's a good one.
Now basically what was happening was.
There were patriots.
In this town of Lexington Sam Adams.
And John Hancock were hiding out there away from the British.
I assume they were brewing beer and practicing signing their name in large fashion up there any further on in Concord.
They had powder they had a magazine full.
Well -- have bullets but I think he needs to shoot musket balls stashed up in Concord new -- Concord Massachusetts.
And the British were gonna go take care both those things -- we're gonna round out Hancock and Adams and go up and get the black powder.
Revere help that from happening -- -- -- sorry mister dogs.
William Dawes -- with them nobody knows because he didn't make it in the home except for an oblique reference to -- -- -- I'm sorry good job in your third PowerPoint.
-- up the next day with 700.
British soldiers to 77.
Minutemen but the -- even though they suffered heavy losses carried -- -- because the British were so shocked at their readiness that they fled the field.
That happened today that's true remember that and be glad and now as we like to do every -- A work from our French -- Us.
And make all these emotional appeals and betraying its.
You've got to show how it could this have been -- -- have -- new ten.
It would not have its hero and I I wouldn't of objected I might have gone the way McCain.
Or to me on this but it took kind of emotional blackmail.
Has always -- you have to do it.
For the children.
Not if there's no logic in this sense and that I think is what's wrong with the demagoguery.
That we operate out of the president on this issue.
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