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Question in the Boston Marathon terror attack is is why no why would anyone.
Do this -- suspect is -- the other remains hospitalized under heavy guard barely able to speak according to reports.
So may be awhile before we really get a full picture learn more about the motive or any outside influence.
That could had impacted these two young men and our screen our next guest may have some clues or at least away -- so look at this in a little different way than.
And some of our conversations have allowed and spec car is the author -- talking to terrorists.
I terrorists she's interviewed hundreds of terrorists and their families and she's our guest today and nice -- with us.
Thank you -- -- to bear when stories like this happen we want a better understands.
But we don't -- -- explain away accountability.
Especially in a situation like the Boston bombing so what should we consider when we're considering why the motivation.
Where do you start.
Well when I heard they were Chechens right away that told me something because even if they didn't grow up -- the war there they -- connected to it.
And they were part of -- separates the -- -- the whole group was part of a separatist movement that got infiltrated by the militants shot Heidi thinking.
And then they started using suicide terrorists and they brought onto the martyrdom ideology.
-- -- I just.
-- thought being Chechens they came from difficult area to begin last.
So that's where I start and as the details about these two young man has come out there's a lot more to explain them let's talk a little bit more about that Joseph Hart that serve.
This she's an American citizen like like you -- me so how what would be the key.
To radicalize -- him.
It -- -- case how would he go from.
The -- -- this item lightness at UN land from the black of a better term Chile to the side of darkness.
Well that's exactly what happened -- say this beautiful young man that has embraced evil.
And it looks like we're not sure yet but it looks like his brother pulled him along and someone pulled the brother and and the way I explain that I listen to in her -- and Russian of his side.
Kindergarten teacher Tom -- teacher and she said that family was wonderful they were well educated good people.
But when he came to preschool he -- come out of the first Chechen war and she said he was very sensitive to fire crackers and loud -- -- and she attributed -- to war trauma.
So I -- right from the beginning just -- on have PT EST.
Venice family moved to -- guests on during the second Chechen war at the father had lost his job.
Then they came here.
Camera on didn't come right in the beginning so -- have a lot of -- a lot of difficult things.
When he got here.
If I end up a -- you know even considering that very dynamic pass if that is indeed the case and we should a little bit on the screen there the interview with the teacher.
-- people go through that.
And not everyone becomes a terrorist so what would be that the tipping point if you will for someone in -- -- this state went with a mental C withers PTS skier are otherwise.
To again switched it.
Switched to terrorists and.
The way this group's work they take a vulnerable individual which he was.
And they expose them to a terrorist ideology and their current militant -- Heidi ideology.
Has a narrative where they feel sorry for Muslims that they -- are oppressed around the world.
And they -- for fighting -- against.
Western powers that are supposedly are hurting.
Muslims around the world he uploaded a video.
Of the Syrian uprising.
-- showing that he felt sympathy for what -- was -- to the Syrian people there which was very similar to what happened to the Chechen people a lot of civilian deaths.
-- heavy handed fist coming down.
It's silly he say that by the ladies and seeing -- an initial reports only one.
And it's from unnamed sources to the Washington Post that is offer our viewers that person context that it according -- the reporting of the Washington Post.
What we've heard from the younger brother is at our wars.
In the Muslim world meaning America's wars have some how motivated him and his brother just to fight back even though he is an American citizen -- -- Muslim.
And with that he take a step back from the terrorist for a moment and talk about her on psychology Symantec comes up in conversation.
You know we -- a different country if winning go to war if we help these to assimilate then they would never done that.
We think when he -- -- conversation what shall we consider there.
I wouldn't blame it on.
On us being in war I would limit about not terrorist group and a terrorist ideology of that caught -- -- Two young man.
Who felt sympathy because they themselves had come out of a war torn area so of course they're gonna easily feel sympathy for others and they are Muslims so they're gonna.
Related to -- and we have to understand that immigrants often have found more than one identity and those two things can be at war with each other.
And then I am concerned that it looks like Tom maybe got into drugs here and felt guilty about it.
We would love to have you back to talk more about that and add delete -- conversation here today.
But there are few reports about the last few years in some questions raised about both Brothers angry to have you on the program thank you so much.
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