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Bob good to see you.
I'm -- how do you see and feel this the Boston attacks affecting the immigration debate is is this.
A sort of a -- for a moment a temporary sideshow or is this going to have some real effect on any potential legislation.
I think it's a significant development that these Boston terror attacks have affected potentially deadly expected to bill will affect the timing and and that's it.
That's a decision that democratic leaders are gonna have to decide and -- may want to move a bill through the senate.
By June but now the big question and we saw this morning testimony from Denton -- on -- Does this -- immigration reform.
Make the United States safer now before we -- talking about the economy and unemployment -- moving to critics would say -- moving immigration reform.
With unemployment so -- Now we're talking about.
-- homeland security and if we pass immigration reform and it does it make it safer and the proponents of the bill if they're able to make that argument successfully.
This bill pass and if they don't it won't.
So we've gotten.
Isn't it but is it stabbed ball but.
In the in the minds of among most politicians who -- gonna have a say here is it -- to link.
Two guys who came here legally then carried out these appalling acts.
Is -- facsimile then into the main target -- of any immigration reform which -- to -- is our southern border with Mexico.
And the eleven million or so into the illegal immigrants who have come through to the United States that way.
Well I'm Jonathan you know I'll all's fair and love and politics -- -- if anything they can do to derail.
This bill if you don't want this bill that passed it in a latch on to this.
You know we had the gang of eight they had their press conference.
The press conference against it only had two senators senator sessions and senator that are so.
There is some momentum around immigration reform a long way to go and there's going to be a lot of questions about amendments the bill's gonna change and then what's gonna happen in the house.
But unlike gun control this has more.
Bipartisan support so.
But are are the critics going to be very loud and I and the house is gonna have a different bill is another gang over there there's a chairman who's not part of that -- So a long way to go you know the the optimists think of that day including Senator John McCain may be.
By -- summer recess of August a final bill could be sent to Obama that that's a very optimistic look at it.
Then it died -- another thing I wanted to ask you about what's -- politically on the hill.
Ball -- -- the Boston attacks.
The idea of that Joseph costs -- I have will be tried within the criminal colts system.
Rather than as an enemy combatant that seems who have stood up some.
Largely on the right -- -- believe shipping him off to Guantanamo etc.
is a better approach via you to have that debate going.
You know it's a very complicated legal debate and I see it comes down to this -- Sonny had his talking and and culinary reports are that he is talking and he's revealing some stuff if that is true.
And if he is being very open.
I think this whole discussion debate is relatively moot because it's a way of trying to get information senator Graham -- saying you can get more information.
And if you treat them as enemy command that doesn't mean he doesn't have any right city can appeal.
That status a months down the road they won't have a lawyer so so he's taken that argument that listen if he treated his enemy combatant.
Then you're gonna get more information act now is an important yes if Sony have is not talking now what.
Graham was saying yesterday is that he doesn't like the Miranda right elements that were read to him yesterday that you had the right to remain silent -- questionable for that so.
Both the left has been upset -- Obama's -- because they didn't read him the Miranda rights immediately as well as the right as long as this guy keeps talking now.
I think that that debate's going to be relatively new but -- -- right now.
When and if indeed they have the bottom line is the the administration.
-- Netherlands and make the decision -- Seem absolutely settlement criminal -- -- right now that doesn't appear as though that's going to change.
Now now that's not gonna change and misses the debate has been going on for a while senator Lindsey Graham John McCain and others.
Have butted heads with the administration but this this is consistent -- -- what the administration has said in prior cases.
And not surprisingly Gramm had a an impromptu press conference yesterday once Jay Carney.
Said what he said about there's no way we're gonna hold him as enemy combatant.
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