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I believe that the administration has the ability to avoid closing air traffic control towers.
And I believe they should use that flexibility -- that discretion.
But in the absence of that sooner Blumenthal and I have introduced legislation to prohibit the closing of those air traffic control towers.
And that the sponsorship and support for that legislation.
Continues to grow.
It's an absolute.
Outrage that the FAA administrator.
Let's not -- how many -- appropriations.
Hearing last week.
And it is also.
I -- any -- classes that this administration.
Palestinian Authority working with congress to -- -- Those senators were talking about the automatic cuts to air traffic control.
Thanks to sequestration.
And Peter DC Washington villainy and on power -- today actually for the rest of the week.
Outlaw offers firewall is off with his family and joining us right now across the street at the capital we have North Carolina congressman mark meadows.
Congressman -- thank you very much for coming in this morning.
It's good to be with you thank you Peter.
Now why is this really necessary these automatic cuts not the air traffic controllers.
Are basically -- essential part of the -- 88 budget.
How is it if this there is this the best place to cut there's nowhere else that they can cut and hit the entire day budget.
Well the Obama administration is is making a political statement at the expanse of the traveling public.
As we see this the furloughs that are being mentioned.
You know there there -- applying them at the same rates.
In Waterloo Iowa which he gets 79 operation today.
That they do in Chicago which has 8202.
If there's not any management there and soon.
So they're more making -- a political statement about that the cuts than they are really trying to manage the process.
I mean what is the played here though is this something where.
Congress men and women and senators think that they are going to end up on top of this is this something that the president thinks he's cannot win at I mean.
It seems like volume -- it's a bunch of frustrated.
Other -- is tweeting.
And FaceBook game about how their flight was delayed and the captain said it's because of sequestration.
Wolf -- was possibly.
Going to benefit from this.
Well I mean obviously a political statement is one trying to make sure that the funding is increase that.
What we really seen with the FAA is is that they have more money.
With fewer flights their their budget is increased over a 100%.
And yet the cut brings them back to 2010 levels.
And and yet flights are down by 27%.
This is more just a political game trying to say will increase our funding because we're we're having a significant impact on the traveling public.
And and I think what we've got to do is expose it for what it is.
And -- sense of political game is it safe.
In -- estimation is this a safe thing to do.
Well you know it's -- from a safety standpoint you know that's what they won't run back to -- say that this is the safest thing that.
The FAA administrator under sworn testimony when they first started coming out about these ninety minute delays.
Under sworn testimony said that.
Really that was not based on any analysis or really any data.
And so what I see is they're trying to live up to the the statements they made very early on.
When there's actually cuts and other areas they they could have made over 500 million dollars is going be spent.
And yet here we are trying to USA that in the in the name of safety we're going to to make these cutbacks in an inconvenience travelers.
And congressman -- the Wall Street Journal I just was looking around before I came to the -- Saying now for -- ten -- so 40% of flights.
Are not going to be on time how much longer.
Are people going to tolerate that before something has to be done in and what is going to be done what what's the move.
Well I think what we have to do is -- that that these are are truly inflicted.
Cuts and not something that's being managed you know when you have a 5% reduction.
In your budget and you're affecting 40% of the flights that math doesn't add up so how how do we see the two.
For relating it really doesn't make sense you know we we introduced a piece of legislation called comments that it was sensing compensation act.
What we found -- that 86.
FAA employees received bonuses of over 40000.
Dollars apiece in 2011.
X 86 employees -- and yet we've known about this -- for over a year and a half I think it's time that -- start managing the process.
Wow all right congressman meadows I appreciate.
The time go get some lunch thank you again and I'll see you next time.
Well it's been good being with you thank you so much.
All right thanks -- congressman all right -- -- going on on the hill though those -- -- furloughs and the discussion.
Listen to this from yesterday senator Lindsey Graham Republican from South Carolina.
Cross examining the DHS secretary -- -- -- said I think the senator Grassley that the older brother at the suspect who was killed.
When he left to go back to Russia in 2012.
The system picked -- his departure but did not pick up him coming back is that correct.
-- -- That's my understanding and I can give -- the DTL in a classified setting think the salient fact there senator is that the.
Text alert on him what that point was more than a year old and had expired.
All right joined now by Bob Cusack managing editor of the hill newspaper Bob.
Where whose fault is this how does that happen it sounds like there's point that it sounds like the DHS secretary doesn't know.
Yet now I I think is very dangerous -- Peter that she said.
Let's talk -- -- behind closed doors -- because this is an embarrassing situation and after 9/11 we had intelligence reform every cut.
Well everyone's talking or another the turf battles between different agencies that's -- thing of the past now we're hearing a little different story ever -- -- made putting into the system.
What she said yesterday one year.
-- within not within the one year well why is it only a one year thing you know.
All these questions as what congress is going to delve into it.
And Homeland Security chairman Mike McCall has expressed real concern is that why wasn't ths time in the -- and and let's person.
A -- -- -- James clapper told job though.
To connect dots yet to make that happen and it it's a big job because whether it's on Capitol Hill and executive branch these agencies is always -- that itself.
But clearly there's a situation here where there was more communication.
May be -- tragedy could have been avoided.
Then after that -- locked down.
Of voters said that they want to have a gun in their home.
-- the big gun boat.
Was safe today.
Instead of last week do you think it would have either been defeated by greater margin or -- -- maybe fast and I.
I think you probably we know would have been the same because people are using -- this immigration or guns.
If you are one side of the island it an easy situation to bolster your argument on immigration -- -- I don't think it's perfect -- either way.
On -- certainly some people said well that people are taking pictures of these terrorists outside their window or what they have done and decided.
But things you know -- -- his -- that wouldn't have been so safe but still.
All these things are using political debates I think the -- probably would have been an issue poll number but -- roughly the same.
Put it out.
All right and -- -- congressman meadows talking about these furloughs -- What is the game there that don't understand well it clearly the administration and Democrats can't fill their -- and senate majority leader.
Read leader Harry Reid yesterday it was proposing a bill once again -- -- sequester.
These delays are gonna have an impact some members of congress were saying they were delayed some or not.
If there is this constant frustration.
Is it frustration -- -- it Republicans it was going to be at Washington in general I think -- probably going to be the latter.
Bob sequestration back in the headlines.
Are partially because Democrats are trying to put it there Tom.
I I don't see any effort any time soon to deal with sequestration I think sequestration is gonna be dealt with at any point this year.
It's going to be part of the fiscal agreement that probably has to happen.
By the summer as the Dexia needed -- talk about that.
Also put it into frustration is just that Washington in general and people were starting to be late for business -- -- late for weddings -- late for whatever it is they're traveling to.
Who then takes the brunt of that is that the president because he's the boss or -- it is it Republicans in congress.
Well -- I mean the president said in a debate last year with Mitt Romney's it is sequestration is not going to happen now I think that's -- the message war is ramping up in a congressman.
Making his points with you.
Com but that's the message to -- -- right now both parties are to blame but if the frustration grows and grows and grows.
There will be some changes I mean if if those numbers go -- it's 40% 50% 60% of flights -- -- delayed and or canceled.
There could be changes -- Libya.
Memorial Day is that a little bit more than -- -- do you think that.
Flights are going to be delayed on one of the busiest days here in the fourth of July.
-- not too far behind probably I.
Republicans are going through their budget line by line what that you get rid of as -- kind of -- just -- That's a dangerous game to play -- blame Republicans in congress he would have to defend everything in your budget -- why couldn't you rearrange things.
That's going to be tough for -- All right Bob Cusack managing editor of the hill newspaper that you very much congressman mark meadows as well thank you.
We'll be up right after the break talking more about immigration and if a certain policy would have potentially cat.
This -- -- heads out of the United States.
The border is more secure now then it has ever been all the numbers.
Are trending in the right direction.
We continue to add not just manpower but importantly technology.
An aerial coverage to the border I think that has VN.
The last piece that we need to add.
All right we're back now on power play and Peter do you see in workers its -- -- who is off today tomorrow and Friday it.
Joined now by -- by -- and Christian Ramos friends of the show so.
Let's talk about if Jesus is here default if you hear that -- announced on up border security.
Would India would his game to be bipartisan.
Proposal would have kept these -- -- Out of the country if it was a place.
Yes actually if you are those in the testimony yesterday and the rest of secretary of part -- those.
Testimony and Senate Judiciary Committee particularly mention that one of the things that prevented them from catching -- on us from leaving the country to go get this thing.
Was one of the bombers had a human error in terms of how they -- their data in.
To the flight manifest and they weren't able to catch and that like one of the things that this legislation would actually do is take away the human air component.
Computerize a lot of that stuff make Charlotte is taking care out.
You know yesterday both secretary of -- and Condoleezza Rice mentioned that this legislation.
Actually makes America much safer.
Ever reform promptly I think well I think still needs a lot of work.
I mean you know you do you have a situation where that this this guy left the country that was document in the us as she said the system paying.
And then when she when he came back there is nothing.
And despite the fact that Russia was saying.
You guys got to look into into this with the potential terrorists that's going to cause you problems so I do think it's an issue I also think.
Lisa -- and think about you know the Canadian bomb threat the -- and threat -- that train.
Would have made it into New York City and blew up I think this immigration bill will be on the skids absolutely.
Why because you have a al-Qaeda like folks al-Qaeda presence on that train coming in across our border that would have -- Well -- it -- to my earlier point.
Takes great pains to fix some of those issues that -- represented there.
Right now we have an open amendment process in the -- we have an ability to add to it.
Absolutely there -- things that we can change the fix it but.
Yesterday just just really had speaker Boehner we had Marco Rubio had Lindsey Graham we -- Paul Ryan.
All noting that this legislation.
Immigration and the Boston bombing should be separate.
But we can absolutely address those issues within the context of the legislation.
Bullet then I guess the question would be after an attack like.
What happened on Monday where you have one guy -- the brother won Boston bomber whose death non sit non.
American citizen and his brother was a citizen.
They carried out a terrorist attack.
It's now all the best time to.
Do this immigration -- -- -- we focus more on security and trying to figure out how to find guys like that and maybe try to figure out what happened at the FBI.
First church two things first ths actually denied that the brother citizenship because he was on the FBI watch list.
There was a miscommunication everything the FBI and DHS.
Would actually fix some of that one of the proponents of one of the pieces I think it is actually -- biometric.
For illegal immigrants in the country which would allow law enforcement officials to better share information so if you're asking me if this legislation enhances security helps make our country safer.
Absolutely and we seen that across the board in the endorsements from various Republican officials in both the house and the senate.
But do you think this is right now.
More pressing than having somebody having congress that it is time to figure out why as the Boston Globe is now reporting.
Russia called multiple times called the FBI multiple times and said you guys have to do something about this Terrell Owens and I have do you think that.
There is anything to the argument that that should be.
First I think you can do both and I think those issues part of -- -- will absolutely be addressed within the legislation and as I said there's an open amendment process there -- input from all over the place on this thing we can fix some of those things that need to be fixed in the legislation.
-- -- great bill for the country as a whole and then also didn't you know those other issues separately they can be addressed we can absolutely walk and chew -- on this issue.
We think well you know look I think that it with -- immigration reform bill that we've had we've had a strong border security element.
And I I do think that there struck port security measures -- -- -- there's no question about it.
I think the issue is going to be whether or not Republicans not necessarily set I could see this passing sentence was where they're not Republicans in the house are gonna join in.
And -- because they come from safe Republican districts.
That don't necessarily -- they don't necessarily count on Hispanic voters during you know and they're more concerned about their primaries so.
I think they are going to be much more concerned about border security clearly.
And and the quote -- amnesty issues.
Glad I had.
They -- in terms of getting another house.
Well I guess just in terms of getting it out of the house or the senate last week the president's big gun bill that he had been pushing failed.
To get edited democratically controlled senate do you think that now Boston this immigration thing stands -- -- which I think that's what those alliances and.
So I think the failure of the gun bill in the senate actually helps the likelihood of the immigration bill to pass in the long term.
It's tough to ask some of the senate Republicans to take too controversial votes and gun violence and immigration.
A lot of them sat this one out.
So you think they got together and said okay cool let's let's make a controversial vote only on immigration and the gun stuff.
Is there I mean he's going to him.
I don't understand I just feel like it's politically more.
You know amenable to some of these guys to take the vote on immigration as opposed to on the -- stuff last word for -- Well I hate outlook I think that it puts tremendous pressure on President Obama get something done or else his entire you know as prep tired agenda is going to be hamster it's gonna look likely to president and it's -- it's -- -- is going to lose credibility he did lose credibility in the gun control bill losing.
I do agree that it does allow somebody especially Democrats take one hard go to suited to our votes the -- you know Republicans.
You know I think.
They separate bolts issues I can control and immigration.
More than -- -- -- by the merits of school you know they really look at the traces of the force in this thing.
But I do think.
That puts tremendous pressure like -- -- -- the president.
And you know the only thing I have to say as with each immigration bill.
It is such a massive piece of legislation.
That it could -- Carter's own way that's why the house wants to break it up in different parts of the one.
Pleased to insight on this but they wanted to break it up -- -- parts and pass it individually.
And there's a disagreement there on how that's that could take place you know whether I won a conference horse separate so.
It's at its side it's -- to say whether they'll make.
Fair and balanced -- rob thank you very much coming up next we're gonna talk about Syria and chemical weapons and what is going to get President Obama.
To make a move overseas.
We are as you know concerned about reports of potential chemical weapons use which is precisely why we called for a thorough investigation.
As the president has stated.
We know the Syrian government has the capacity to carry out chemical weapons attacks.
We also know that there -- those in the Syrian government.
Who have expressed a willingness to use chemical weapons to protect their interests and prolong the rule of the Asad regime.
We remain skeptical of any claim that the opposition used chemical weapons.
-- Welcome back to power play and Peter -- and Washington's filled in for Chris -- -- or -- or Jay -- talking about chemical weapons used potentially in Syria President Obama has long said.
That if the president of Syria Bashar Al Assad uses chemical weapons it would be a game changer that's the quote.
That the president has been using and right now as of this morning.
British and French.
Authorities are on the UN but there's credible evidence aside -- is using chemical weapons and Israeli military's been saying for awhile that he's been using them so now what happens we're gonna bringing KT McFarland Fox News.
National security analysts KT.
It seems like Syria is hovering right over that red line.
Well it made me you bet serious cover -- ever Atlanta proper cross -- the questions -- -- President Obama do about it.
-- he's made that are really clear -- the -- he has spent this for a long time.
That chemical weapons -- game changer it's a red line we're gonna do something about it now the tough part comes watch.
You made this speech issue drama line in the sand you can't let them walk over that line in the sand so what is the United States -- And this isn't really tough tough issue because do we -- you know -- -- and boots on the ground we don't get another Middle East War.
On the other hand if this chemical weapons are not earlier they use but I think far into the hands of one of -- 1000.
Militia rebel militia groups.
What happens to the next then we lose track got them.
And try thinking about administration is now between a rock and a hard place and they've got to make a decision on what to do probably in the next -- -- 72 hours are they going to.
Pretend that the Red Line wasn't crossed even if they pretend it wasn't crossed it will be cross whether it's.
Today tomorrow next week next month and those chemical weapons remain so I think it's it's -- real testing point for President Obama has he's talk tough.
But now what's he gonna do about it do you thought about it isn't always it.
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