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Our wanna turn to a man who is otherwise known as a real Middle East expert and somebody who really writes about what's going on Italy's fear of -- But I wanted to bring an end because he's written it ever really provocative article -- -- a couple of and the one in the guardian and the -- Hossein.
Council on -- relations.
Thank you so much for joining us having making.
-- -- -- you have written and you're Muslim you -- -- -- -- Britain and the United States.
And you're talking about this phenomenon differently.
If I can just by background say that I met with the head of MI five innings and immunized fifth and he said.
There's a real difference this is a couple of years -- so there's a real difference between great Britain and the United States and Great Britain.
Immigrants don't that don't assimilate they tend to live in their own communities they got there aren't sure who they don't learn English -- in America you -- just the opposite you welcome immigrants.
Now we're looking at this and saying maybe not and what I love what you said -- the our reaction to this seems to be on once sense either bigotry or any other sense tonight.
Yeah I think you're absolutely right in the way that you frame it that.
There's this course the consent that is worth us taking a step back and putting all this in perspective there -- almost ten million Muslims living here in the United States.
The -- -- and Muslims in Europe look to these Muslims here in the US as examples of.
As accurately identify integration.
-- scholarship among Muslims and leadership that's -- that's relevant to this part of the world that's not feeding off of the narrative in the Middle East.
The front of these two guys.
Only two guys 119 and one point six year old have committed this criminal act.
Should not then lead dust too deep meaning what has thus far been very successful project.
And showing that Islam and Muslims can live side by side in an integrated peaceful little biting fashion as they've done in the US.
So this is very much the -- the exception to the rule and it's always important to remember that the exception cannot override the rule.
And -- simple -- more I think is in in in Europe particularly in Great Britain that are almost 3003000.
Young Muslims who have being.
Monitored on a daily basis as to.
If they go into it and operational capability -- if they will the support extremist terrorist acts in some way or another 3000.
Compared to just two individuals -- maybe at most ten people -- being -- here in the US you know.
Says it's important to get to the bottom of this but it's even more important not to lose focus.
I'm not undermine the great work that's being done by.
Jews Muslims Christians and on but he was in this country to illustrate to the rest of the world.
But Islam and the west I'm not fundamentally at loggerheads there is no clash of civilizations.
You know one of the things that struck me was when the older brother talent.
Went to the mosque inserted denouncing Americans that -- in Cambridge Massachusetts thing was denouncing America.
And the people in -- -- stood up an IQ with him.
Now that's what you're talking about.
Yes -- that that's an excellent example of when it mainstream ordinary normal Muslims.
Hate and America find.
Him arguing against Martin Luther King repulsive and expel him from the mosque.
It's probably worth saying that is expanding from them expelling him from the mosque is one of -- mobile the right thing to do it this engage him and show that most American Muslims aren't extreme.
But on another level -- -- -- -- he should not have been expelled.
One of the things that we have been Great Britain for what I fuels is something called channel project way if I as a Muslim observance of the Muslim at the mosque or -- or school or university.
Who seem to be -- -- tip -- the authorities have been identified.
A moderate Muslim scholar was able to engage with the extremist based on -- religion observation of faith the often life.
She's talked to him -- -- extremist home.
On a level that they understand IE through religious -- here in the US that's not quite happening yet been is the federal government to look into a project that.
Do you meals the extremist -- news.
Counseling and injecting doubt in his totalitarian mindset rather than these sting operation which seems to be the more -- -- took action full of little -- -- --
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