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Even electrons take up space though not much.
I just but this memory card.
59 bucks 64.
Could hold almost 30000.
Copies of this book war and peace.
But what's even more staggering is an NSA data -- Five times the size of the capitol behind me essentially filled with memory cards and computer chips.
You may not know about it but it's Catherine Herridge reports it may soon know about you.
-- still -- top 25 miles due south of Salt Lake City.
And just west of the middle of nowhere a massive construction project is nearing completion.
The heavily secured site belongs to the National Security Agency caught.
-- This spy center that's -- -- mean -- ignorant Amy Rio who worked with the local sandwich -- told me last summer.
And as good -- guess is -- for the gargantuan facility the NSA is named do you time data center.
It's fire around you know -- Monetary years you know they'll announce we.
We were approached a couple of years ago about it.
Possibly bringing water.
Mark green is blocked -- city manager.
He was asked to figure out how to supply the sender with its extraordinary wonder requirements.
We build a large -- pump station and then we build a three million gallon tank.
-- you -- store the water.
-- three million gallon water tank.
Just to -- the air conditioning to cool the computers.
The -- -- neither confirm nor -- the specifics but some estimate the facility will be capable of storing signed Xena let the data.
To give you an idea how much -- is and has seen a -- Think it at this -- Once an iPhone 5 has sixteen gigabyte to store.
One terabyte would be about 62 -- -- stacked though being nineteen inches time.
When pain -- site would be more than 62000.
Iphones which would reach higher than the Empire State Building.
And exit by would be more than 62 million iphones reaching higher than the International Space Station.
And just one -- might be more than 62 billion iphones stamped they would reach past the mood.
If it really has -- -- -- The data center could in theory store every email cell phone call Google search and surveillance camera video in America for a bleary long time.
What are they -- do with the Davis -- I don't know it's a classified.
Gary Herbert is Utah's Republican governor.
But you've seen the reports emails phone records banking records all of I've been on a tour -- seeing the facilities they give me kind of a general overview what you're going to be doing.
But this -- -- in the details of -- -- need to get from them.
But all the NSA would tell us is it do you -- data center is a facility for the intelligence community that we'll have a major focus on cyber security.
We weren't given access but we could see it from the sky.
Raises the most serious questions about the vast amount of data that can be kept in one place.
For many many different sources.
Tom Drake was a senior official at the NSA from August 2001 to -- as an innate before he resigned for reasons we'll tell you about in the second.
Where -- this do you come from are we talking about email traffic are we talking about FaceBook postings are we talking about telephone calls travel itineraries.
I don't know precisely.
And -- not saying informed speculation suggests just about any of that and perhaps even more.
Drake says Americans should be concerned about letting the government go too far in the name of security the only way -- -- securities have a perfect surveillance thing.
That's George Orwell.
That's what that would look like.
In Drake is not alone in feeling that way.
Whatever you did electronically they could capture build -- -- -- the NSA for nearly four decades starting as a data analyst in the days before desktop computers.
After 9/11 BN SC began a warrantless surveillance program approved by President Bush.
This started with the telecoms providing billing data records.
People in the United States calling people in the United States.
My estimate was that they were collecting on the order of three billion a day three billion -- 33 billion that's just internal to this country.
In simple terms NSA spying on Americans inside this country that's -- Vinny thought it was wrong and quit in protest.
Someone leaked a story of the NSA surveillance program to the New York Times which exposed it in 2000 -- fine.
The NSA officially discontinued that program.
The same -- suspecting he was a source for the New York Times leaks the FBI raided building -- home.
My son answered the door and they pushed him back -- gunpoint and then they came upstairs and I was in the shower and got one guy came in pointed the -- my head and said come on out.
An FBI agent puts a gun at your head and your naked in the shower -- tell.
Okay -- a good thing.
-- denies being a meeker and ultimately was not charged with any crimes but a fellow whistle blower wants.
Remember Tom Drake.
His house was searched too.
He was indicted on five counts of espionage.
The government ultimately drop those charges in a deal where Drake pleaded guilty to a single misdemeanor of -- using a government computer.
I did have contact reporter the degree weather reporters -- we're not sure anything that was was classified.
Any way shape -- -- I continue to believe it was effective.
It was lawful and and it was appropriate.
As the director of the NSA from 1999 to 2005.
General Michael Hayden was -- and -- -- -- they may have a different view god bless them this is America have have a different view I think it made America safe.
During a period of great danger.
Hayden says Vinnie and Drake were simply wrong uninformed when they said the program was illegal.
Apparently congress which in 2008 explicitly legalized much of the surveillance going on.
And President Obama who recently re authorize the law agree.
That makes Drake as worried as ever.
-- -- President Obama has used that power even more aggressively than the -- Democrats accused of shredding the constitution.
I have private conversation people used to work in the bush administration and the reaction is whoa we never have gotten away with -- -- half of what.
Apparently are restrictions on doing anything this aggressors in has been significantly expand.
Far less transparent -- the Bush Administration actually yes.
That's another reason why Damien Drake had become fierce critics of the message you -- data center.
The real question is what is the government do it or could it do it.
And what -- the control sort of the oversight means.
One man we hoped would answer it the current director of the National Security Agency general Keith Alexander.
When he declined requests to sit down with us for an interview we stopped by the offices of a Washington think tank.
Were Alexander was speaking at a cyber security event reduce -- data center pool the data.
We don't hold data on US citizens people there -- -- -- They take protecting your civil liberties and privacy.
Is the most important thing that they do in securing this nation.
And so when people just show up -- they're gonna have all this stuff that.
You -- data center that's apple.
Only that's just ludicrous -- I'm not can come up and say well here's what we're doing Utah.
That would be ridiculous too because it would give our answers.
A tremendous advantage we're not gonna do that.
But -- says Alexander's protestations missed the point.
This is not about the character of his former NSA colleagues.
-- -- the possibility that the government's stunning new capacity to collect store and analyze data.
We'll -- less than noble leaders if not now then in the future.
It's a really a turn key situation where can be turned quickly and become a totalitarian state pretty quickly.
The -- capacities to do that is being set up if we get the wrong person in office story and government.
They could make that happen quickly life liberty and the pursuit of happiness we balanced those three virtues all the time.
The question people like me -- The American people if so how much more do you want me to do.
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