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Story and interview with former congressman Barney Frank.
As you may know the day after three were killed and more than 200 injured in that awful -- and terror attack last week.
frank became the center of controversy.
While speaking on the phone to -- and that he put forth a political point of view.
In this terrible situation.
But he's very grateful that we did a will -- it functioning government.
It is very treasured -- America.
And this system kind of reciting government but these little public employees -- but that engine that -- about.
That's what we believe -- sit him out there.
Do we -- Government.
In two ways Bloomberg will never wanted to -- 101 -- -- -- -- for a special government.
Lower taxes -- -- -- access would have helped us.
It was -- will help us -- some sort of this is very expensive.
Now after mr.
frank said that some journalists including this fought his comments were too close to the death and destruction.
Even the liberal MSNBC.
So you keep talking about revenue when infrastructure in the fact that.
We have the capabilities necessary to respond.
To something as atrocious as this.
Do you feel like you're capitalizing and making political hay -- of this event that happened.
Well you're making up political argument about revenue right now actually I'm actually.
Joining us now from Boston is -- track.
So -- hindsight do you think you should have waited a few days before a making those points.
No for two reasons first.
That's a partial quote what I said when I was called on that day.
In every case there -- three or four interviews I began by talking about how terrible it was it some people -- there with people they love and all of a sudden they were dead.
In every one of those interviewed I began.
When they ask you my reaction by talking about the said that we all had -- field.
And several of the interviewers and press me for further reacted.
I don't think a discussion of public policy indeed given appropriate premature by the way I -- noted many -- -- talking about immigration.
You -- Dennis Miller who who would discuss Q my remarks a date to later in mr.
bill which complaining.
That -- -- call it.
That their President Obama hadn't called terrorism on the first day he went -- the second day well that was an appropriate criticism given his viewpoint.
Of the president the notion that you should spend that.
A discussion of important issues.
In the -- who tried -- -- except now I did -- fed began to all you do with with my.
Feeling to -- it -- all right and my condolences for what it is.
We're -- here here's why it might be inappropriate.
Because when you say.
-- no tax caught.
Would help this situation.
You basically polarizing.
Americans who want lower taxes smaller government.
But in a timeline exists.
And you are from Boston.
I wanted to see and I called for on the air -- all Americans to come together.
Right not only to support the grieving families but also to show the world that -- united front -- you're not gonna.
Come in here to our house and intimidate us.
Buying your rhetoric by your rhetoric you're dividing people 24 hours after what I think we should have all all of us in the public -- Been trying to I would -- them.
I would have yet to win that what -- I remembered two days after with the U mister Mello would be very critical.
Called a -- of things going to develop.
Would future in mind attacking President Obama for his response no I don't.
Now we attacked president -- -- RAI bots we ask me why -- did we asked the why the term hegemonic.
You know I -- get -- Yes and mr.
Miller was very critical of the president.
For not having said terrorism the first day and a half ten on the fact that that's that was all that is accusing loyalty -- let me can -- -- and on the ground.
Can I know the -- to -- get to go okay.
-- would being critical the president that we did right.
As far as dividing the country.
The country as divided as it should be in a democracy.
Referring to existing division did not polarizing I didn't know who opposed polarizing and it could tell that watching your show much of the time.
But I think that's legitimate as I said -- it was appropriate to talk about these.
The sympathy we felt in the -- But when I was at for further reaction that was the reaction and I do think that it's a legitimate debate America and -- -- -- would -- -- what you said not the -- after two days after three adept at.
When did -- become appropriate -- -- many people from wolf.
Parts of the spectrum being appropriately.
Not political this intertwined when I -- but -- what they put public policy going to be.
Much of that week.
We have two positions my position and what I call for on the night of the bombing was all Americans come together.
And your position 24 hours after that you divided America on a policy basis and people can decide what worthy and what is.
I don't know I didn't divide America that I didn't.
And but I didn't I didn't divide America America is appropriately divided we -- I -- -- versions on though I'd prefer a lot smaller government lower not on that people in -- -- we all should have been uniting.
Well you'll have not did not -- -- -- nudged -- and unfortunately the way.
May I finish again but can I haven't good to be allied with the Miller what -- -- -- twice so much time as I've had so Fargo make your.
May I speak.
little -- in fact being critical of the president I didn't mention any individual I wouldn't casting -- burden on people I was expressing different things with their viewpoint.
And I do not think that it is appropriate to say.
-- people who hate democracy -- think let's not have a discussion of issues.
It would it would they would not testing of pregnant it would not dividing people would referring to what I think debate in this country.
And I have to who went with it appropriate to start politics Wednesday not to.
I think you're I think you're right it may be aired it out by the end of the week and then we had.
Of course under the yellow -- now we get on Wednesday are.
You're not Obama voters critical play in wall missed the Miller.
nobody thinks very critical of the president but I don't know it's right at home plate -- -- was attacking the president for not saying terrorism on Wednesday -- what do you think about that final dividend.
What do you think I don't think terrorism it was good government -- -- what do you think about the commander in chief.
That it was the Islamic gee -- -- -- that was all on motivating force behind the terror attack he won't say it what do you think about that.
Well I think two things first of wall.
I think you were trying to you know -- have -- would division in the country that's a good thing to do that legitimate on the Monday.
Millwood -- we've been critical of his comments on the Wednesday.
Nobody knew that it was Islamic -- we we know which terrorism.
But nobody tool on the Monday EO we do know Bennett joked no I'm I don't feel like he has instilled -- residents still hasn't defined it.
As it jihadist actions -- Well I don't know about how to I would say -- -- who un Islamic.
The -- -- bullets fired by Islamic terrorism I think people.
Yeah ought to be very clear about that and I think -- why did you think the president did make him why do you think the -- don't know not online drug.
I'm not in charge of explaining the president -- while you're I think you're you know I'm very well he's the leader of your party.
You must have an opinion I have an opinion on everything -- know.
No -- I don't have an opinion on everything else -- don't have opinion on things and -- -- -- on the Monday night that I had no idea when people ask me to speculate one of the things I thought was.
Unfortunate -- a lot of people.
Who should be in my in the final -- value should be and speculating about things within only -- we should just different what will we we don't like that at all and speculation -- ever get so you just don't know why.
Barack Obama won't say this was generated by Islamic Jihad is you -- you don't you're like why haven't I don't know.
I mean I and I'm asking whether you -- apparently I had I had that.
Oh right no you'll and I neither one of us knows I have not been in Washington I've been out of congress -- a month and not been talking to two with people about that.
I don't think it's legitimate for people to debate that -- -- the other I don't think it's dividing the country to -- movie to make and I don't think by the way that.
-- -- -- bacteria found out the level of funding we put into the police forces the effects of a sequester which was sitting.
-- -- Those are very legitimate topic to debate are legitimate debate top I don't -- casting aspersions on people or divide our country when -- -- to existing legitimate public policy discussion.
After expressing sympathy that's when -- -- house.
I think that we both got a point across tonight which is what we do on this program and we're glad you participated thanks very much tax.
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