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All senator you're a huge proponent of privacy rights other lawmakers are calling to add more security cameras.
Where do you stand in the issues are.
We have the government's gonna use cameras to watch us they they need to have probable cause they need have.
An argument to use the constitution need to do surveillance on us and then I'm -- with it but Willy -- on everybody all the time in open -- -- I'm against that.
One thing that's lost in this debate though is almost all the cameras that were used to catch these young -- in Boston -- private cameras.
And I'm not opposed to private companies using surveillance cameras to protect their property senator we -- -- in Times Square we talked a bunch of people in and with it.
From ticket seats of the did very last person everyone said I want more cameras I want it.
Especially areas that are prone 22.
Today attacks they want more than.
Why shouldn't we have more.
You know I think in the aftermath of a terrible tragedy where all of us wanted to get these young man who committed this atrocity.
And we want to see them tried and convicted.
I think there's a lot of emotion and anger towards this right after nine elevenths.
If he interviewed people seventy some odd percent of people said they would trade their freedom all of their freedom for security.
That numbers now more back to 5050 which is about -- always is but I think it's important to know it's a slippery slope.
And someday you may have cameras everywhere think of 1984 where the cameras were in your bedroom and in your rob.
Dining room -- where you never won a moment's notice about being watched.
There is a downside to that we have to be careful not to -- that direction right senator I'm I'm in the camp that says more cameras if I'm not doing something wrong then I then go ahead fill me.
Where is it unconstitutional or is it unconstitutional to have more cameras.
We have to have probable cause for the government to be involved in surveillance we had a big Supreme Court case last year.
On whether or not you can put it GPS tacked on someone's car without a warrant it's not that the government can't do it -- have to ask for a war and say.
This guy we think is committing this crime and is involved in this this is our evidence so far.
We want to fall into the GPS.
But imagine the world we live and if you had politicians who didn't like their opponents and they -- GPS tags on their opponents you've seen the acrimony in Washington.
Would you want one side Republicans or Democrats to have the ability to do surveillance on their enemies or people they don't like their speech.
It's a terrible president we need to be very very careful with allowing expansion of cameras well at it again the difference here being that -- you're targeting one or two.
-- a person -- putting a -- to tracking device on a person.
My point was a -- a general area a camera that that takes a picture of the general area wouldn't that be a crime deterrent.
Will we have a lot of that and a lot of that so that's my point is there's a different standard for government and private businesses because government has enormous power and can be abused.
A private business like Macy's are gambles or whatever can have cameras around their -- to protect their property and I think if you look back at how much footage came from government.
And how much footage came from private cameras I think -- find that the vast majority of the images that were used on these two boys was actually.
Private cameras in private images all right senator that recently yet and some of them have said that you were inconsistent on your policy on drones from your thirteen hour filibuster -- I think you're consistent but do you care do to clarify.
You have -- policy on the drones in the filibuster hasn't changed in fact if people will re watch the thirteen hours in their spare time.
They'll find that I use the exact same analogy of -- gun fight at a liquor store saying the police can always use deadly force to repel deadly force in the technologies not so important.
I'm still against drones targeted assassinations.
And I am still a huge believer in privacy in the bill of rights very good -- of -- case it's obvious just from minute.
This looming debt debate where we're spending like crazy I assume that you you're not support.
Of growing our debt.
Would you abdicate a government shut down to send the message to President Obama that we're spending too much.
No but it what I would advocates not raising the debt ceiling in government doesn't have to shut down if you don't raise the debt ceiling.
You can still make your payments we bring in about 200 billion dollars a month and tax revenue.
Our debt payments about thirty billion you could still pay our soldiers you -- pay Social Security Medicare.
-- -- might not have enough for like we search firm -- -- beef jerky or research on goldfish or.
500000 -- for a menu Mars you would have to seriously cut government if we get residents -- But not raising the debt ceiling essentially is going to a balanced budget I think that's a good thing the senator -- the -- house Republicans.
What -- down in this they seem to be caving -- a lot of areas is that how does that sit with you -- Yeah I'm not sure what they're gonna do yet on the debt ceiling they did -- -- for a couple of months I wasn't really a big fan of that.
I am for making a stand on the debt ceiling and always hang out.
And I think we hated to have the country come behind -- look at the sequester.
It's a cut in the rate of increase in spending.
The president said this -- I was following this guy was -- me shut down that tours at the White House.
Same same week he actually agreed to send 250 million more to Egypt.
So there is money it's just matter of prioritizing where -- spent.
I think it's irresponsible the president to lay off air traffic controllers that we need while sending money to countries that we don't have -- Senator what's the motivation behind the White House I mean this requested that the very high profile things like the White House stores like the national parks like the FAA people want to go.
Think the flights but there and delays.
What's the motivation.
I think to politicize this and show that apps government couldn't.
Couldn't exist on a little bit less money fighting is backfiring on them particularly.
When you show that they've cut out in them eliminated self guided tours -- the White House the same week they send 250 million more dollars to Egypt.
The nation you know what we can't afford them rebuild every nation in the world.
But certainly we should -- to keep our capital open so I think people see it as disingenuous and they're seeing through the political games.
And Sean Connery of the president so we'll see what happens by the American people are coming to our side saying.
For goodness sakes is the -- the least week in there and senator it's it's always good to hear some good old fashioned conservative values and I really appreciate your time.
Senator -- -- thanks for joining us today.
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