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The very presence of the Boston bomber's mother on daily and nightly newscast proving taxing not only apparently to viewers in general.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But a lot of you quickly tired of -- rants but one group in particular.
The relatives of those who died in Boston.
Are tiring even more that the media lets it.
My next guest knows that feeling very well he lost a brother -- pan am flight 103.
Of -- bombing over Lockerbie Scotland back in 1988.
An attack soon link to Libyan strongman Moammar Qaddafi whose constant antics and bombastic broad sides against the US.
Went on for years talk about road salts -- a lot of wounds.
-- reminded this -- What he lost because.
Of the doctor's orders back then -- Aaron and brother Tom died in that pan am bombing are packed with me today.
I was thinking purpose we will work we've got to get you were.
You spoke so well to -- the time.
Dealing in the face of crazy it's and -- the immediate session with a crazy it's so now you see the the suspect's mother on TV initially appearing as a sympathetic figure.
You're getting did you vote.
-- is no question you know you can see it.
The example I would give his you neighbor.
And told them next door neighbor killed -- I can't believe this is such a nice person but then you get over that real quick and you realize oh my god what did he do.
So this was a grieving mother even when I was watching it reliving what took place of my brother and 259 other people in 1988.
Nice -- that poor mother not realizing what their two sons -- But then she was.
Doing too much and my experience -- -- 25 years and say what's going on here and now when we find out that you've been arrested for shoplifting.
And now the Russians finally say they had an audiotape where they're talking -- the sun about Jihad.
And now you start to -- -- -- a minute she's as much involved in this is -- two sons so stop the nonsense and now let's get to the true.
So whether we know that will ultimately.
Not to be true or not.
The media starts out -- sympathetic portrayal right.
And the mother's arms are getting rather once and was one of my sons dead and the other one.
-- the life for a while and and and been brought up and did something that doesn't seem like it.
Then we realize we're missing a lot of key information.
-- added that play out in the locker we very quickly if -- memory serves -- right.
Discovered to be a terrorist attack and very quickly started drawing links to Libya.
And yet throughout you're Qaddafi protesting on an update and then later on boasting about how badly the US was -- Other no question and I was in -- first the ten days to identify my brother and on the third day they announced there was a bombing.
And then I found myself in that.
Intrigue like Tom Clancy novel for the next 25 years.
And we had a draw from our government a little different here we had -- draw from our government about the truth.
-- -- airport airline security regarding state sponsored terrorism we had a force our government to do what's right.
And I think that's what the families and Boston what's going on the right thing there in the appropriate way that they're trying to honor these loved ones and more importantly -- The individuals that lost their limbs that these people are gonna have to get on with their lives and never had difficulties six months a year two years from now if they're gonna live with that.
Every day for the rest realized that they -- in hole and with this idiotic bombing.
Completely lost their lives and so there's got to be issues that have to be taken care of there.
Persistence and perseverance will work I'm angered with our politicians the comments that they may.
Like -- well you get the Schumer saying I support the FBI however I think they dropped the -- get Peter King.
Saying this is a failure.
And you get John McCain and Lindsey Graham that they must be what bill acted together all the time.
Now they -- -- go after Syria last time I checked there were no Americans killed Syria.
Where is Great Britain where is Germany where is Russia.
Are you feeling at the western world is dropping the ball because some McCain's foreign -- point.
There's -- of cases here is -- -- -- he's using chemical weapons on his people you'll have been a victim of terrorist.
Your brother died in the terrorist -- Are you saying that that's the constant eye for an eye tooth for tooth goes too far.
No I what I'm basically say in our case we had a 189 Americans blown out of here at 31003.
And it took us almost ten years to get our government to do what was right we did ask for military action if it was connected to state sponsored terror that's.
Now we have a situation.
Where we made a mistake and -- racquet looks like we've had -- war we're in Afghanistan we've gone through.
And now we have a Syrian issue I think President Obama handled the Libyan situation perfectly.
You have to have an international coalition so you're glad to -- -- On the question that was that was that the greatest day of of this 25 year Odyssey from me and I just hope that the Boston families.
Get the true justice they need and just making sure that everything has been done properly.
But for what if this extends beyond these two Brothers.
Terror elements within Chechnya we're beyond.
Then how far does the net.
Well I do remember.
When I met with President Bush 41 on April 3 1989.
In the Oval Office and he said to us -- if this is traced the state sponsored terrorists.
Involvement of a government we will react militarily.
And when we got a -- the state sponsored terrorism nothing to place the possible.
That's the facts.
And if this is traced to state sponsored terrorism.
Then there has to be something done in this case because Americans have been killed by leaders of another country I have been a supporter of -- -- law.
So yes you do have to examine this we gotta give time for them to come out with the information.
And then you have to stay on top of that because there's always a lot of people and any government hours or any others who would like to see these things go way.
Will you draw the line in in creating a lot more deaths.
Indicate in the case of state sponsored -- In this particular case what we have right now it looks like two young people that radicalize and -- -- that maybe the mother involved.
Then you might have another connection you gonna have to follow the dot.
If it follows back to state sponsored terrorism that then have to be dealt with -- what it -- state sponsor terrorism cockroaches lose.
All over the country independent cells all over this and then and then I would not be a supporter of going at this particular point.
For military action and unfortunately.
We've seen -- moving that this could become.
More of the way of our lives but let me be very clear this was the first attempt that succeeded since nine -- Our country has done a phenomenal job and was anyone it would be critical of our country it's -- in stopping untold amounts of attacks that they've been able to take care.
When I heard a politician and I forget who was the other day saying you know they they only have to be right once we can never be wrong.
That's not the real world eventually they keep trying enough it's gonna happen but we have to stay on top that we have to be persistent I think we are doing that -- You lost your brother in the first real.
Notable terrorist attack.
From there we went -- the first World Trade Center bombing.
And 93 even when and the USS -- 9/11.
So many incidents here and abroad since.
Did it will ever be over Providence.
And now here you take this view your whole life you think about it every day you move on with your life.
And I'll never forget what John Walsh said to me from Americans most want -- -- -- them privately in the night before him and bush 41.
And he said he said yeah right on everything you're doing.
But you're not gonna get anything unless there's another terrorist attack where a lot of Americans get killed a lot of Americans get killed in our government.
We'll have to respond if it's only if you they never will and just the -- you talked about.
The first world trade -- 67 people you talk about the Cole was maybe a hundred and and -- and remember.
But as soon as the second World Trade Center and 9/11 took place the very -- today the politicians that were fighting us on airport airline security.
Immediately say we have to implementing airport -- -- security.
So there's a connection to a lot of deaths and unfortunately money and that's something you have to -- become so.
We just -- meeting under these circumstances.
It's always good -- him -- different when it's.
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