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I'm Alex don't want to welcome Rosemary -- leave who has a Catholic priest.
Wait a minute argue a female.
Early data that -- how can you be a Catholic priest.
And a female.
Well it -- easy.
Were there at the movement within the Catholic Church.
And get it's prefer issued a Roman Catholic women -- actually -- renewal movement within the church.
Some of the bishops like this say that we are not in the church but we are.
This movement began 2002 wins seven women theologians were -- genes are meant it you brokered by -- bishops.
An apostolic succession and communion with Rome.
After -- ecumenical council in the 1960s.
There -- not that many women were hoping and looking forward.
True -- what you Pope John actually paired.
Get -- some hope for our should be ordained deacons had preached that happened.
Church and some of these.
Women in Europe -- regularly for a couple of decades and to try to figure out how they can't.
Become ordained because it wasn't gonna come from the top down that we decided it and did come had to come from the people of god.
And about how it happened now.
That the church is you know says that.
A matter it's a matter of -- -- doctrine of the church must follow the example of Jesus who appointed only -- his apostles and then women.
Who do this are automatically excommunicated.
-- -- stop blaming cheaper for their patriarch ball.
Affectionate than that -- and -- rules and regulations.
She just didn't ordained anybody.
-- you know -- a possible fit in the ordain anyone during that period time ordination that we know them.
But didn't occur until 200 or more years after -- -- and the whole idea of twelve apostles -- Just like the twelve tribes of Israel it.
Idea there were women apostle.
Mary -- -- -- with the first.
For sure woman a possible awful mean someone militia force.
And I -- and then all of economical gospels.
-- victory at Merrimack Dolan is placed at -- resurrection NG trichet get hurt Mary.
Go killed the brother.
And everyone that I am restaurant and that's an -- is.
And Paul and others -- the end of pitfalls.
To chew me out -- so -- -- people need to -- About this their books like Jerry when he sees his history of women's ordination and -- -- this information has just been suppressed.
And it hasn't been -- bill.
-- the -- you you consider yourself they Catholic in good standing correct.
But what what do you reconcile that with the church saying your ex communicated.
They -- they were purple or orange if thanks thanks communication is certainly the it will -- stick that the bishop she used to two people under control.
And I feel really sorry for people -- stock believing that you know people go through.
Stages that they and you have to get beyond.
We are not going to be controlled by it's wrong exit them.
argument is wrong it always has been and always will be that we have to get beyond.
They -- but you know I mean the Vatican has not approved female priests and I'm not above I think to be great if they did and I -- my wife has -- I mean -- to be great if they did have.
Female priests but then I'm not Catholic and -- -- -- even weigh in.
But there's churches -- recognize -- how can you then be -- part of the church and perform the rights of the church.
As someone -- the church -- is no longer part of them.
Well we don't think we're no longer a part of -- we believe we are part of them because the bishops -- -- the first women priests.
We're an apostolic succession in communion with Rome and therefore they can -- validly we are being validly.
We are in disobedience to -- an unlocked and when he for which says women should not.
Image Christ and therefore they cannot be ordained to the -- just affects the flaw in league history garbage.
When -- you operate in a church do you have a congregation do you have.
Or or how do you go about your work is a priest.
In in the Roman Catholic women -- movement we start house churches just like they did at the beginning of christianity.
In little communities.
We have the -- sacraments all are welcome we are inclusive not exclusive.
And anyone can come in -- can participate in them.
So you were -- of the visually in someone's home you'll create a an altar and have and conduct masses what percent.
Well we we have we do little little bit different world.
We are include that we don't have a top down leadership our organization its circular.
One person one vote didn't really speak and and the -- can't both -- -- -- where.
Are not told what to do we're not in -- -- into it diet she is that we can move anywhere.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- with everybody.
Equal to each other -- up on a pedestal.
-- separation between people and we all have to -- is lying there are different cables.
Everyone puts their hand out and -- the consecration.
Together it's it's not it's -- we're doing it very much more current crisis like forty minutes -- -- -- traditionally been done.
Church which -- very -- -- a Catholic priest now do you answer to the Pope at all.
Where the battle.
Here's what we think you know.
I see this and I think my sister priest -- district -- -- Can the transitional time in the church -- for luminous timing that church and I hope that we can ask our brother Pope transcripts.
Who chose the being referring just to reflect on her relationship.
I think printer.
The quality testing strips of -- print this and think clear.
Where love each other very intensely -- brother -- church and he brought up balance and humanity could their community because they weren't true.
With the balance.
To bring male and female and our church and we believe that we need a renewed.
Generous priestly ministry in a reformed church which includes both women.
And then with optional celibacy she says the dress as women over and over and brought them out.
-- witnesses many trial period -- -- Samaritan woman Veronica Mary -- as the leader in the church.
In the world leadership of the church for hundreds of years.
We want to win win situation not a -- the church.
-- you can't you don't answer the Vatican.
-- I I don't know what you mean auditors and it.
-- the Vatican is not sure.
What either you know part of that the church structure.
Within archdiocese in and the Vatican and ultimately well.
No -- at work developing our own.
That's that's right within the church you have to have women's -- -- women.
-- not -- -- -- the only clear picture over forty years you have to -- man it well when you want.
A win win situation.
We -- women's voices women's opinions women's perceptions women's experiences.
And women would give them the ability -- -- people's hearts to enrich a whole people of god.
You're you're good for Kentucky is -- is -- biggest is movement nationwide.
There are we there we started in 2002 with seven killings increased.
30% per year we now have about a 150.
Worldwide which are probably too little or 25 in the pipeline and about a hundred of those are in the United States.
Has it been any official reaction from the Vatican -- your.
Not that I know -- they just.
There are reactions from the -- as -- are ordained in different diocese around the current streak because.
We're a threat to them they know where ballots they know we're growing they know they're not growing.
And you know -- It takes a long time -- that patriarchate.
That but nobody says hey back -- don't do -- they haven't ordered you were try to get you to to not do this anymore.
-- -- -- -- -- Up to this sport people they can't.
They -- -- none and then at some point did you -- left did you leave via non ticket and you got married at some point.
I listen -- in the karma like monastery when I was very young.
And it was contempt of the order where it was very strict -- we had little different parts can insert himself forced.
But I would stand which I love tonight I was -- very much aware of but I can't hurt.
Because I want it to be about all of my life but it's I was very young however I -- of an individual that launch it -- nine -- actually.
And -- that.
Strict -- interest of the -- -- Would sleep deprivation really trade very much I'm sure you've heard of -- -- again.
And the -- -- -- -- well we went to their 11 o'clock at night got up at 4:30 in the morning after three years since that I chose my body just.
Speaking ill and I had to leave.
I started started to market I want to -- and then market university.
Undergraduate studies theology and psychology.
Well it's a fascinating issue and -- you believe that they will comment and in our lifetime when the church -- admits.
Women into the -- from.
I hope that you know that.
Pope's friends that so keep his ear to the ground this keep it here open to -- spirit pulling the Olympic changed your church in the arbitration make this change is now.
By the way if you call a priest father do you call a female -- mother.
No we're trying to do away with -- of some of that clerical -- an inch -- separation between people.
No legal -- -- -- some of we will increase.
Do you which reaffirmed that it I don't won't stop -- or anything that issues during my first name mercy.
Rosie thank -- innocent.
Our -- she wanted to send.
I know I just think titles than.
Pollard -- you can and so -- do nothing but separate people and that's not what we're here.
-- -- man thanks for your time appreciate very much.
You're welcome thank you thanks rumors -- -- Catholic priest will.
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