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We are back with former CIA officer Claire Lopez and former Israeli defense force officer mark Colbert.
A -- this guy the older brother talent at drove a Mercedes he dressed well.
Looks like he was in the money but he was unemployed should we be following the money trail and what could that tell us.
Yes absolutely governor the the financial trails going to be very important in this case.
Especially it's time Elaine of course is now.
Dead in his younger brother unable to talk for the moment but that the financial trail can be started to be followed -- right away.
And as you say the older brother in particular.
Dressed in nice sports clothes -- -- expensive -- drove a Mercedes.
And in particular we know that last year 2012 between January and June he traveled over to the Caucasus region perhaps to dot it's -- The hostile is the capital where his father lives maybe he was there -- -- he was somewhere else.
But during those six months you know who was supporting his wife and small child back home.
How is he being supported and when he came back there's no record of him holding a job and and the younger brother.
Don't cart either although he was as a student did not have -- -- public record that we know of yet of having a job so.
Just like after nine elevenths when following the money trail took us to the wealthy.
The donors in the Persian gulf area Saudi.
Arabian and and other gulf donors.
And foundations like benevolence international the -- to trust were identified and shut down.
-- by the Treasury Department.
So to this time.
That trail can lead to the donors on the funders and perhaps shed some light on the institution in Islam known as a cut.
It's -- Cox of course is the obligatory annual tax on all Muslims and Muslim businesses.
But the important thing about it is that even though the majority of it might go to charitable causes.
A portion -- percentage.
By law by -- -- obligated to go to Jihad is that where the funding came from to support these two -- -- -- -- Brothers.
It to the financial trail will tell us and that is important to follow absolutely.
Market you guys have had to face so many of the challenges with security.
If you were giving us recommendations in the US how to make our streets our city safer.
Give us some specific things.
That we're probably -- to need to do.
Governing they didn't picking up body parts and dealing with the scenes that we -- -- now in Boston.
Yeah I was in Boston just a very very gut in the very same place infect a having a lunch.
And these -- the scenes that no one wants to deal with these that this is the trauma of this is the the -- that's gonna stick with people for -- We -- we need to understand a couple of things before -- going to.
How to protect and be proactive we need to understand that this is seen it is gonna -- many many people for a long time a lot of trauma.
The investigation has -- quite the quite -- said he's gonna lead to many trials.
Is going to be a lot of speculation.
Until the -- -- the investigation is still going on the Boston Police.
Did an amazing job.
But the most important thing here he's being proactive.
The needs to be some form.
Of pro active.
Be a fight if I can use the words it's Q goes on if I can use the -- security levels all.
All creating various virtual -- areas of defense because once these people all within the crowds it's tonight.
And the tactics and techniques in the methods I think we we should you know perhaps talk -- boxing training within law enforcement.
-- the law enforcement people come out to the civilian population.
And stop making them away because people -- complacent people think it cannot and -- happened to them.
But it's going to happen.
We predicted this for many years -- to putting.
Serious security Berry is in the inner circle.
Mark thank you very much -- -- one final question for you.
People are already second guessing our intelligence agency's investigative agencies like to CIA the FBI is that demoralizing to people inside.
The agencies when people start saying gee if they've done their jobs better this wouldn't -- happened.
Beat the patriots who who work inside of our national security.
The FBI the CIA and the others.
But they're professionals.
And they're going to go about their job and and and we need to let them follow the trail where the trail leads this was obviously a complex plot.
These two Brothers -- -- -- Brothers did not do this by themselves.
They will follow the trail they will be professional and methodical in their investigation.
We need to let them do that.
And whatever time it takes we need to we need to allow that to happen but we do need to find out what happened and in this case the attack in Boston.
I appreciate that response -- because I think sometimes it's so easy -- -- to want to point a finger the fact is I deeply appreciate.
The highly trained that that incredible.
Personality both CIA.
And the FBI ATF all these organizations.
And I think they generally.
More than anyone can ever understand.
They never want to see these moments happen and I wish they'd.
You -- were perfect I wish they never had an issue that that fell apart on -- But I also believe.
That these are people who are giving at their best shot I think what we don't hear is how many different events were thwarted.
And stopped in advance and then of course all of us are part of that process if we see something.
Mark Claire thank both of you for being here.
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