Also in this playlist...
This transcript is automatically generated
-- -- -- I kinda feel like -- Here we go again we've seen this before Americans.
Crossing the border they intentionally or unintentionally into North Korea.
They get sentenced I'm thinking of Laura Ling among them the journalists -- and then visited the north Koreans get a high level visit.
From a President Clinton or -- governor Richardson all whomever.
To give them -- some propaganda value and then that person is release is that simply the game we're playing again here.
I think so I mean there is a possibility we don't know exactly what he did and we -- may never know frankly he's not going to be willing to write a tell all probably when he gets back if he gets back.
And right now the north Koreans are charging him with -- and plotting to overthrow the regime which is a little bit stronger than what they've said in the past.
Most likely you know he's sentenced to fifteen years hard labor they're gonna say it's as a humanitarian gesture where we send.
And -- that'll happen in conjunction with -- either secret agreement with the foreign government.
Or with high level person as you mentioned governor Richardson -- President Clinton or Carter coming in to get him the problem as President Carter already offered to to secretary Kerry to go.
And everybody was kind of who -- the idea and President -- frankly -- -- -- -- political utility with north clarity he went once in three years ago to get a different -- So all of North -- kind of in this position where they.
Do this cyclically and electable people hostage because it gives them leverage and even if we're not trading away big things and negotiation.
You're starting the negotiation with North Korea with them ahead having given the world a favor are -- and -- somebody.
And humanitarian grounds so what do you think -- Kim Jong England's playbook right I think it's the same playbook they've been doing for ten years which is arrest as many Americans as possible.
One at a time to make it seem like it's genuinely -- -- they did something wrong.
Hold them until you need that leverage and then try them and sentence them right when you need them you know some breakthrough happened politically.
So this is.
He's played he's played the game -- upping the military anti with the with the nuclear tests.
The missile launch is all of that now he's looking for another way too -- to exit the said civil.
-- ends -- happening in North Korea always pushes things the adds to the to the brink of war and they always there have been a sea of fire when a bomb Washington -- at this time they added Austin, Texas to the list for some reason.
And then they try to find a way out of that brink of either by offering to go to -- negotiating table.
Or to release some prisoners somewhere that sort of thing and they try to get off that that -- by doing something that makes them look like they're still in power and authority and giving concessions as an act of generosity.
Given what is is a US citizen though can do we have any choice ball to play them then.
We didn't see that's the problem and and if I were his family I would want to get him out no matter what now if you look at the broader picture over ten years every time this happens US loses a tremendous amount of leverage and North Korea looks stronger because this young guy will now have.
A former president or congressman or governor coming to beg him.
For their release and so it's a difficult situation US government obviously can -- Americans from going to north strips -- the way the US government work.
But I will tell you over the last 23 years North Korea has started to ask missionaries and activists and tour operators to come back saying oh open for business will let you do what you want.
And there have been there's been a lot of skepticism in that thinking there's one more people to rest and -- need to.
So the tough situation is we want -- -- for humanitarian grounds one can't pay back home the same time we send somebody high level to go to a concession.
It just adds ransom value for the next kidnapping over and over and over.
-- seem to be better at these games and we have.
I think they pay more attention to it does is there one thing is America whereas on the US -- partner of the US focusing on the entire world and frankly the -- with a focus on Korea has been limited.
And that's why we've seen Korea policy in the last one years be a disaster and every officially have a went on TV now telling us what to do to get out of it.
Was probably somebody that was involved in getting us into the situation began with when we started they didn't have nuclear weapons.
So DeWitt didn't.
On the broader picture are dealing with North Korea.
We did we there was so much tension rising over the last other -- over the last few weeks couple months.
And we got to April 15 I think it was when everybody's always -- when we're gonna see them right.
-- had a launch that was the I think -- would -- -- the 100 anniversary of the birthday of can also the founder of North Korea nothing happened and it's all gone quiet.
And what are they what are they doing.
I think they would if had things played out the way they want -- to something would have happened you and I think the reason it -- and after all that buildup is probably the Chinese and everybody is talking about the Chinese shifts and all that.
But starting from about a year to a year and a half of the Chinese Government -- had started to realize the cost of keeping north through the way it is outweigh the benefit.
And now for the over the last 45 months North Korea's outright speed in -- has faced because the Chinese president Chinese Foreign Ministry the Chinese newspapers.
I said don't test in the U don't want -- missiles in the North Korea just doesn't.
-- I'm Chinese populace from the Chinese put -- are thinking what is the value of keeping north graduated with a B does make us look -- and cost us political capital and sort of gain that's what the right so you walk.
Would be the best.
Next step for the United States.
With the knowledge that -- phase humanitarian situation is of concern and with the caveat that I would love and to come home.
You have to stay the course.
You have to stay and not give concessions and not break out and not think all the all the sudden they -- threatening to bomb Washington let's give them all this money and food aid and go back to the negotiating table -- we'll get right back in that situation but in 45 times over and over.
Which is a play -- -- a -- take a picture everything will be quite freer than you'll discover they had another nuclear facility.
Down the street or another missile they were hiding and then -- back over again and then you lost five years and probably -- another 100000.
And concentration camps -- -- starvation it's a game their very adept at playing and because Washington switches teams every 23 years in four years for elections.
Everybody loses the institutional memory and thinks if I do it will be different.
And then we get right back in the same situation and now we're -- herself sixty years after the -- started with concentration camps in 2013.
Filter by section