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Days it is interesting because we do we usually yet this debate from someone outside the Islamic -- And so if it always seems like it's an attack on Islam but you are a very devout Muslim.
And you're talking about these jihadist and this is a problem what is what is the driving force behind this sort of radical Islam I.
I think -- -- the -- is discussing this issue someone in Lindsay even when we use the -- radical radical I think that limits -- discussion the actions of the Boston on this.
Look consistently the violent political islamists.
They're also nonviolence is institutional islamists not equally extreme in that used but actually -- and Africa.
Manufactured bombs -- -- all conduct the final acts.
And it is something this very universal in appealing trans global and that -- Kamerion.
Any individual who seduced by the -- about which -- -- Then -- cities that there is they go to be a restoration.
All -- Islam to -- fictional original.
Elevated status which they imagine can only be accomplished -- silence.
So the bits that have been made public Indian city are -- surviving -- he said he was defending Islam that's exactly the kind of fiction I emirates are inching.
I knew right this is a difficult debates anonymously this answer because they immediately -- -- Islamic sense which is not not -- useful sent it actually only says.
Nonviolent political islamists and we have to get rid of that in his vision.
You -- you wrote -- what I -- read one of the quotes from your column because -- that was really chilling you're talking about.
You know he has no real political demands no disputed borders no cries for political repression a representation his only demand is nihilistic Jihad.
There's one there's really no -- what is the end game then what's the goal and I.
Think we should located -- -- -- science -- panicky.
I'm also an -- and wound on anything that is secular apple seem to be secular or anything that is seen to be Weston.
Let's think about the young hockey stunning gold along -- shocked actually in the same area where I visited the Pakistani.
One of the reasons they shot hair from which she said I'm not all you -- -- was because -- designed to educating children was thought to be secular and anti radical jihadist ideology.
So we can't -- That if we settle -- -- -- it is well if let's say troops -- removed at the end of conflict from Afghanistan pockets suns at border region that this is -- to appease them.
That -- raise a little -- trick is this kind of violence.
According to terrorists.
Reminds us the IRA let's say all other groups which eventually -- -- songs that I don't think -- useful way to describe the problem here -- -- how opposite criticism about profiling but is there and that type that is more susceptible to this sort of ideology actually what I think you're that's a great question.
And I think that profiling debate is often.
Mostly -- -- feeling under siege because that being profiled but remember we have 68 different nationalities.
Of Muslims in America and over a 180.
Nationalities -- most things come to question that.
-- access -- this is not racial.
Profiling and if you think about the Boston -- Bowman who was sent -- very.
That -- limited kind of student says this young boy this -- and the one hue and was not quite so academically successful it seems.
They have a lot in common -- ask UC DT who also originated in Boston but Italy's senior science is to leave the Ph.D.
So I didn't you know who.
How you identify.
The individual characteristic I think you have to look at the actions.
-- the travels and some of the affiliations that -- clients abatements.
And I think we need to look to the United Kingdom in the way that they -- -- this week that was recent week.
In in -- convicted in -- and the planning suck at a very violent attack just now the sentencing was last week.
So would you be looking at some kind of sociological elements not this -- -- national.
Or even change because that's another way that they start profile and you know -- excluding this story of the bomb the -- and it always says it was it was killed ultimately.
Is that he was thrown out of his own mosque city Elvis realized -- was it also aren't you realize that sending -- -- to back he's views.
How that somehow got to enforcement all.
Let's say informed colleagues that may have immediately provoked some sort of scrutiny sit -- -- community has a huge responsibility.
In learning about political Islam isn't.
In trying to differentiate between political Islam is and and regular slump and helping all of -- remains secure and safe is no way we can remain out of the discussion.
And looking at this does not constitute profiling -- -- -- -- or a violation.
Of civil rights looking at this is for the good of the whole society.
Whatever from the very very good question and what should the reaction from the US government be how should we be looking at.
Trying to stem this sort of jihadist that Rick radical element that is in everything it wreaking terror I.
Think they may I mean our this -- surveillance and in our enforcement and our agencies.
A really highly scalable already an NYPD -- known -- -- globally visiting sites when they have been attacks.
And learning from the evidence and procedure during that time but perhaps take -- -- of the Catholic countries like -- -- on.
Where we have an epidemic of jihadist.
And there is -- any ambition all bay -- of political correctness.
There is no difficulty about identifying.
What is criminal activity conducted under the shelter -- -- So there may be.
It's not -- the mechanisms of our enforcement or rock or authorities.
But more for the public and media to begin sitting back and saying that's really examine -- program we've not gotten to be able to solve this by pandering to what -- what -- Politely and his liberal.
-- cats and I'm very liberal I I like to live in a pluralistic society in the United States I was raised your -- exercising Britain and educated at a Christian school so that makes me.
Very liberal in many ways that the views I'm Sharon you now a labeled -- and derogatory as conservative I think this is it realistic you to take.
Perhaps Obama thank you very much also on the target was about your book.
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-- -- thank you very much for for being here I will brush the rest of you know knowledge and understanding that you brought to.
Loren congratulations to opening the debate really.
I thank you very much thank you very much.
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