This transcript is automatically generated
I'm closing arguments prosecutor Juan Martinez telling the jury that area as well ally at every turn defense lawyer Kirk -- army telling the panel.
It's not about whether or not you like -- areas so no wonder what -- a jury think of area they believe anything she says they had actually eighteen days to hear directly from the accused killer.
And even to ask her questions.
They're -- -- the information he told us about distraction is telling you.
We've got another that you -- You are getting what will -- do it -- over.
I was thinking up just when he had -- because.
I think I know first minute it -- when attending my first instinct would be to stop.
And that's what I want him to do.
But if you he had already told you -- it was overloaded.
Why don't you believe that he was going to stop if you just total -- pretty easy talk to a song.
It was just hope because that's my philosophy about if I had to look at the independent barrel of the gun I would stop and I didn't have time to sit -- whether or not.
He would care -- there was unloaded and reloaded and I'm glad I didn't know I just.
Want him to stop then he -- you after you inside into the bathroom and that's important this.
In -- and you're test.
Probably go to him when he when he can read it.
And yes you're -- -- eight people why are you just put your finger on the trigger and Paulo.
Where that car right.
It's my understanding yes we do that yes this -- you fire -- -- he shot.
So it was a mistake for the defense but areas on the witness stand joining us our legal panel in San -- -- prosecutor Jim Hammer here in Washington defenseless Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams and and Phoenix -- Hayden is still with us.
Thirty -- I disappeared the defense.
Procedure I -- there on the inside they know more than I do about the case right.
But I wouldn't go for broke on this and that she's innocent because she told three different stories.
I'd be so worried about saving her neck and getting rid of that first degree murder and using the prosecution's own evidence to show that this is a raged on -- -- -- I think that's who you have to give Detroit so what this try to question.
Putting aside -- moment what everybody else in the courtroom deals.
How do you feel about areas and how she served presents herself pretty -- sympathetic when she's understanding crying.
Yeah you know I -- kind of decipher her as a person I don't I don't think she's well I I think she may have some analysts is that better right I spoke with her -- for a while and she seemed very nice but obviously you know my opinion all -- -- to -- -- is that -- and I met instituted did this crime so.
I wanna what happened that you -- -- very early on guys maybe you can answer this.
They left I don't know what's wrong with me -- -- W four I did this I feel terrible this guy it is may be crazy.
What happened was anything other than -- them.
Well well that's -- decimated made me crazy may be so angry ads like that's sort of the spurned woman.
That brings -- down from murder one rumored to against her and dumped on ten guy.
And that's where the rage killing comes the end off.
These thoughts and good friend for a majority areas you're -- -- -- capital murder.
Is that to judges are permitted instructions on all of them are above capital murder of -- second degree murder and manslaughter soda -- -- come back.
Any any one of those areas and when you're looking at a race Kevin and our charm made their world speak -- what -- jurors field and that is that's just something is wrong with his -- and the disconnect and we're not gonna put -- the -- Politically sound bite them one of when she's talking to the prosecutor may come out to Jim Hammer who was for a prosecutor Jim listen when she's argumentative and about -- memory problems.
-- -- -- -- -- That's -- you're seeing him and then again we pretty happy memory problems.
Not that -- had.
Who again well could be aware are you having any mini memory problems other than you do.
And police seemed to find any so maybe I must love playing anything I want you.
Whether or any major problems right now I can't say that this -- -- anywhere.
Jam your thoughts on Hamilton wins that -- -- I'll just have a snapshot of entire cross exam but go ahead.
And this is a prosecutors a dream I used to say a little prayer.
Before I've wrapped my case I'm hoping the defendant would take the stand in case there's nothing quite like.
Letting the -- the jurors watched in real time.
Especially over eighteen days the inside the mind of of -- defendant in this case I -- two different personalities that timid now see 10 my god.
I didn't do this or if I did it I don't remember it.
And then this sarcastic sort of angry sort of cunning person.
And I disagree with you read on the rage issue and an intent to.
-- doesn't mean it's not premeditated people kill people because they hate them sometimes because -- angry at them because they wanna get even.
And like that like your prosecutors say that's an -- from communication.
I've done a murder cases where they were -- Greta where -- so different and shot I've never don't want the -- -- my money's in the death penalty in this case.
I wouldn't want one more piece of tape where she's cried on the witness stand and does sort of play see what.
What the panel thanks.
Every Friday were -- shooting him.
When you -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And you don't want to get -- right.
Then -- -- an individual that.
Lot about all that's right.
Can sovereignty over.
Ernie -- lots of tears but she you know but she's on the witness stand and the murders particularly brutal and he knew heard the jurors' questions -- Right before.
-- I guess I guess a couple things one is we don't know whether -- Crocker tell crocodile tears or not.
But first let me get back to hammer -- actually now I find out he praised during -- -- -- -- and none of your better more on that.
But but to here's Brian Michael Baden all but said.
This guy was shot.
First yeah but that's not the prosecution theory that's why I would I would sees the prosecution did the prosecution stepped in it I think for the defense.
Oh yeah in terms of passing -- and Jim's right -- premeditation like that but prosecutors have all these little gimmicky -- This is -- this woman is sick she's not insane but she's very sick.
She's been sick on us at the same thing you know perfectly saying and a half -- -- right now I mean you do well look at Ted perfectly segues perfectly good ground we're just.
-- doesn't -- here.
I've been watching this prosecutor.
This prosecutor has been like -- pit bull.
And -- what I'm stuck with -- is.
It's caught on how to jurors looks at different government attitude of this prosecutor in cross examine and -- woman.
And all you need is just one juror about -- his journal.
He's unsure but all you need to testify that if I was a prosecutor I'd put all the pictures up from the autopsy do I was at -- in the last where our chance I heard -- -- Jim Jim Hammer out.
-- isn't gonna walk from like one of the DA's cross examination questions okay this doesn't eerie similarity of Scott Peterson Scott didn't testify she did.
But the jury and Scott Peterson heard those recordings -- wife and baby were dead he was talking about trips to Paris.
I'll tell yet it shows a -- is a lying in calculation that's what could tip the scale in this case I think.
Gentlemen said Jim is gonna take the last Greta this is outnumbered -- a prosecutor to -- defense -- Thank you -- and.