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-- serious now tracking al-Qaeda right now two years after the death of Osama bin Laden.
There seems to be something in sort of terror revival going on with the al-Qaeda network evolving into a more decentralized movement.
With bases now on Iraq in Syria across northern Africa and also in Nigeria.
And while Qaeda lost a key haven in Afghanistan.
It got full fledged support al-Qaeda affiliates in Pakistan Yemen Somalia and other places.
To joining us to talk about the spreading out of the al-Qaeda network it's Frederick Kagan he is the director of the American enterprise institute's.
Critical threats project and you've been looking.
And -- al-Qaeda has moved around we know that there -- -- a lot of these groups in these various countries I'll -- Bob for example.
In not Somalia so why are they now sort of really aligning themselves more cells without kinda.
Well it's not -- it's not a particularly new thing for them to be aligned themselves with al-Qaeda actually this -- Something that's -- kind of lost in the shuffle as.
The last administration and an even more so this administration is really zoomed in on Osama bin Laden and the coral Qaeda group.
Most of these groups were recognized as -- Qaeda affiliates.
Five or ten years ago.
And they have been there -- as part of a network so.
It's been more of an issue we it's not paying enough attention.
To these threats rather than them becoming new threats although certainly the Arab Spring and the explosion of weapons from Libya and a variety of other factors and our withdrawal from Iraq frankly in the Syrian civil war.
Have accelerated this process.
But part of your point is that they are -- themselves in more significant ways and they had been in the past and I and I'm just wondering some of these al-Qaeda affiliated groups like Foster -- made a bunch of money.
From holding people ransom and then some corporations paid him off to let the hostages go.
Why would those groups want -- don't do more with al-Qaeda in Yemen because you think they just have to -- some money up the food chain.
Well they do have to -- money up the food chain but.
This goes to the core of what the leaderships of those groups are all about and what they are about -- global Jihad and this is there's a lot of confusion out there about whether -- morpheus or whether there.
You know fundamentally business -- -- They're not these al-Qaeda franchise is al-Qaeda in the Islamic regret and Libya and Algeria and an Africa al-Qaeda in the -- -- Arabian Peninsula and Yemen.
Also Bob -- are ideologically motivated groups these are important parts of the global -- Qaeda network.
And we really need to take them very seriously as enemies and not just as money making organizations.
OK so United States what can it do about it it's -- sort of expanded its operations.
It ask for calm of where we have US forces there but what more can we do -- put people in certain regions of the world.
Well we've we've -- expansion in Africa's been fairly trivial I think we just announced we were deploying ten guys to moment.
Which is which is fine but as -- exactly did that years ago we've had spent sent special forces over a -- to train some of its forces there.
So -- really what what more can we tempo.
I'm gonna give you that the -- frustrating answer we could actually develop a global strategy.
For how to go about dealing with this problem which is something that neither this administration north predecessor.
Has done and it's not something that's easily stated and it's not something that's just about -- You know sending troops in invading this and attacking that it's about actually really seriously understanding the global nature of this threat.
And the local nature of this threat how they fit together and evolving -- real strategy to deal with the real threat.
We're still were were four years into this administration we've yet to see anything resembling a comprehensive.
Description of the threat from them let alone a coherent strategy.
Frederick Kagan this issue is not gonna go -- we'll have you back to talk about this -- some more and on John as he also points out thank you have a good day now.
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