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-- -- the first question is why would.
Girls who could physically apparently leave this kind of situation.
You know stay for a decade with one apparently being with child maybe six year old as your report just -- -- So -- and it -- Walton does what does half.
-- -- -- in the human mind and and particularly if Xavier a teenager.
When your held like this.
How do you not find a way to get out of it for so for so long.
Well I think people have to realize that what happens is that people who can take.
These vulnerable children in this instance girls.
Children who are somewhat alienated a bit isolated may be alone they appear.
To be somewhat -- not saying that this is necessarily what's happening here I'm talking about in general cases.
And they plot -- plan and then they they they strike.
What happens is they're very good at manipulating.
And controlling the way these kids they can feel about themselves in this situation essentially.
They take something that is sort of crazy.
And at normal and they make it very normal in the minds of these impressionable young children.
And it and then walk Walt would trigger.
The escape attempt by Amanda Barre yesterday that appears to have led to all of them getting out alive.
Right and I was just speaking Jonathan with my colleague before -- that came to the studio.
Today about that very question and I I want to know myself but as I said before what happens is -- very abnormal situation this sort of crazy.
And -- same kind of behavior.
Is made normal in the minds of these impressionable young children so something had to happen where amended Barry I guess -- you know what this is not normal does that make any sense.
Or maybe for a while she had been planning their escape.
And the other day that she decided to make that phone call with the day that it made sense for her to make that call right and a -- tilted the that this situation that -- on now in their free.
But they obviously have memories of ten years of being held captive -- now however -- manna that -- and we'll find out a lot more.
Broadly speaking because we don't know the details all of that timing captivity but broadly speaking.
What -- the emotional issues that -- going to be tough for them deal with right now.
Well one of them going to be you know getting back into the real world.
Dealing with normal kinds of issues like family and friends and not being locked in a home with a crazed lunatic or three.
-- Brothers who I would imagine are somewhat crazy I think I -- on a limb not knowing that to say that.
And also dealing with their feeling so they have a bunch of feelings one days.
How did this happen to me why did this happen to be -- maybe some -- some guilt.
And then now I have to lead this situation that was normal for me for some time and now create a new normal.
Out in this again this real world with family and friends people who love.
-- support about -- and support them care about them but also they're going to be feelings.
You know is this the right thing.
That I do the right thing by calling the police and leaving this home believe it or not children who are abused neglected and face Mal treatment they felt guilt about that they feel.
Guilt about leaving that very.
Very unhealthy very harmful situation so they'll be dealing with that as well they need counseling obviously right away debriefing has to happen -- need to process.
What they went through that's gonna take some time in more than anything they need space from everybody to be able to do with this on their own with the family and friends.
Who love them who care about them and missed them for a decade.
Can I interest in.
You make that adults obviously we we've seen -- situations like this before Elizabeth smiled and of course JC -- gotten a JC -- -- Has just released a statement and I'll read it as it is.
She says these individuals need the opportunity to -- And connect to back into the world this isn't who they all it is only -- happen to them.
The human spirit is incredibly resilient -- more than ever this reaffirms we should never.
Give up hope interested in that line doctrine what what you make of that this isn't who they -- it is only what happened to them good advice to look at it that way.
Of course that you know she's an expert and I may -- a psychologist but I never lived through these kinds of horrible experiences that she's right.
They need space to deal with this.
With their family and friends that we have to allow them to process this with qualified mental health professionals as they say they're going to be feelings of guilt.
Feelings of shame feelings of abandonment believe it or not -- they may even -- connect.
Today at home into that space into those horrible men so they're gonna have to have some.
Counseling to be able to detach themselves from that horrible situation you know and they need space for that and I think what's really important.
Is that this is not who they are these are circumstances that happened beyond their control to a large extent.
And they're gonna have to work through this as I -- a lot of support from family and friends.
Yeah that that the bottom bottom line -- I mean they they've been through a terrible experience.
They have come out of it alive.
And with the right.
Love cat and and psychological help they -- they can return to normal lives.
Yet they can't of course but we have to be can unclear on some things as they say they're going to be working through a lot of complex and complicated emotions that you -- even with my training.
May not be able to wrap our head around that be able to understand as I said -- -- Guilt abandonment they made missile attacks -- -- home to those three men.
They need space to be able to do that with family friends they need mental health support and then let's see what happens and the next few months and years it -- I'm sure that with the right kind of support.
And mental health kinds of counseling that they can do well and they can -- -- to do some great things --
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