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-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Cell -- that it's becoming obviously an epidemic around the world of courses -- continue to get better -- carry more of your information.
-- better cameras iphones of course our -- something it's very desirable for thieves I've cell phone that has become a real problem mark Rodgers is principal.
Security researcher -- -- I'll look out dot com is the website he joins us from San Francisco right at night -- right now to talk about some of the issues.
With cell phone that market for joining us.
Thank you very much.
You know what the media sometimes can play things up we can.
Retail is an epidemic we've we throw that word around a lot some times maybe without necessarily.
Really looking hard hard the numbers but cell phone that it is a significant problem.
Yes yet this and it's a big problem.
It's it's it's exacerbated by the fact that cellphones is so desirable ever -- -- makes -- easy to sell.
When you talk about that Leo I think I guess is it because I mean they're becoming more affordable -- the -- -- -- become more powerful not only.
The other -- a couple years ago the iPhone really kind of controlled the Smartphone market but now it's in the -- would be Smartphone my father in effect for the first time went from a flip phone to a Smartphone.
I'm so act as these phones progress as they get more -- to become really little computers I mean galaxy of course it.
One of our one of my colleagues here discuss the new galaxies and says -- it's like a little computer in my pocket it's it is something that I could've dreamed of five years ago.
I assume as these things continue to get more advanced the problem gets that much more difficult.
It does put.
-- I don't think the power of the phones is necessarily drive in the theft problem the moment is the value of the funds.
That there may hold a lot of -- the reason to shift so criminals like to talk to them.
You're right though that is gonna become -- -- a problem in the -- as we use these funds more more for personal information.
Loss of our information as we can become almost as bad if -- Willis in the lost -- found itself.
Before -- to some of the tips for consumers.
There there are some things out there right now you know manufacturers.
Are trying to improve anti theft technology of course apple has -- find me ability where you can -- and on your computer your iPad or iPhone you can you can really track all of your devices.
But that up.
Again only kind of -- you find out where your device may have gone if you're crowded area -- -- -- the -- street corner whether there's fifty people down there who you know has your phone so.
What are some of the things that some of these companies are doing with the and I -- abilities.
-- I had to be honest this visit.
Quite a lot of different things -- people pushing right now to try and -- from from theft.
We ourselves have a product which can be installed on.
Apple devices and on -- android devices which helps you locate a phone book.
That's not necessarily gonna solve the problem from theft because.
I wouldn't advocate people -- their phones down and going and accusing people necessary have in the that's more -- from law enforcement.
But the things I think they're gonna help with with -- -- Looking at the ways in which phones can be rented -- Oprah who in purple.
I am looking in the ways in which law enforcement can be helped to track the -- down so they can deal with the problem.
Before talk about what -- -- we put together some some tips at home for those watching for viewers who might be.
-- -- -- in an -- insuring they can secure their phones.
And it may sound like Ali is just my thoughts in my pocket but really think about the places that you can lose him and I have a lot of friends that -- -- phones recently it's very frustrating.
-- your contacts only your phone numbers on there it.
Port information first also password protected data very simple but have a lot of friends LeBron who do not do that I can't believe it.
People are gonna grab it only -- to second or two and it's gone.
Download an app with the ability to remotely lock and wipe your data apple has other other ones out there.
Locate a lost or stolen phone on a Google map for example snap a photo with a -- cam which is also something it's very interesting effect that some has got a lot of popularity recently.
And do not take matters into your own hands so they actually.
The does but look out dot com you guys actually providing this but what's wrong with taking matters into your hands of some was to say -- -- I saw this -- take my phone.
Why can't I go -- I would love the federal could just identify the person who had the phone gravitated back but the problem is all of the people who stay in -- phones.
Are willing to go to some extreme measures to keep the phones with the taking and we had to go to extreme measures to take those funds.
So I wouldn't -- suggest -- people should put themselves in harm's way for a thing it's it's terrible to lose some and -- our -- personal safety is much more important.
Now on the other hand if we're talking about an environment where you know you're a school -- a phone does it -- -- It's a relatively safe environment than -- to identify who has it is a great thing.
What I'll what do you recommend -- -- dot com what it what can you guys provided -- brought to one obviously because you -- expert and in this kind of Tampa Bay Area you obviously have a lot of background in.
What consumers can do what can you guys provide.
The advice we can -- is is pretty much.
Kind of in line with the device you just gave earlier.
If you make sure that you have a strong also put a new device than you can pretty much guarantee that no one's gonna get axis of the -- takes a missile that.
If you put software such as look out -- -- Apple iPhone or -- your android device.
You got a pretty good chance of being able to tracking device down -- means if you just misplaced it or if it's for now go back somewhere.
There's a -- Charles that are still let you go to -- it go back and get it.
Rocket to make sure no -- excessive and and kind of would you -- the risks.
What can the industry do what have they don't know what can they do.
The industry has a lot of work to do but there is a lot of opportunity for them.
And if the if they focus on things like ensuring that serial numbers on devices can't be changed if they -- focus on -- across the entire ecosystem.
Ensuring that mobile phones which have been recorded a stolen can't be used in any market.
Then you go to school a short -- to the heart of the problem because if a thief can't cell phone and open want to steal --
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