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It -- if the senior senator from New York did not mean.
To impugn my attention did not mean to say that the real reason I was supporting border security was because of a path to citizenship.
Admit that I accept that clarification of course it's not a clarification.
I think common record was the speak for itself as to what the senior senator from new York and American government but I would like to point out.
That border security in the state of Texas.
Is not some abstract concept.
My favorite in that was Patrick Leahy the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee mustering the strongest throat clearing that he possibly could to try to defuse the confrontation.
Between Ted Cruz.
The Tea Party -- loved -- conservative junior senator from Texas.
And Chuck Schumer who is sort of the antithesis of the -- the audio that apotheosis of the antithesis.
Ted Cruz and this -- power play and I am Chris firewall.
And they -- gets there which stands a pretty significant practice by senate decorum standards.
Was over why -- groups insisted on border security and tried to amend.
A measure coming out of the Senate Judiciary Committee to say no.
Amnesty as opponents say -- legalization.
As proponents say of any illegal immigrants until there is border security.
The bill is is often running.
But how far will that make it under what condition we will discuss that even though you probably don't want to but you need to know because it is significant.
For a lot of stuff including how the budget gets -- will talk about that.
We will also talk of course about Ben -- Ben Ghazi so the first attack ads of the 2016 election have already been made day.
And they deal with Hillary Clinton's -- -- the Ben Ghazi and saying and then the alleged cover up thereafter.
We will talk about that future implications we'll also talk about the back law.
At America's VA system and efforts to repair that.
It's something you need to hear about trust.
Will do all that.
We will do all of that and I will not Wear a tie for India and not for 12 today we'll I'm wearing neckties but I know that always well for us.
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Is Bob Cusack he is the managing editor of the hill you follow him at Bob Cusack.
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Thank you thank Atlanta the Green -- to -- See if you witness said that I would think that -- -- I had a bad day but it's OK next time OK let's -- We're we're -- I have a feeling you and I are both going to be back here talking about it having been a rebuilding year for both with the Steelers and -- and I -- -- viewers for us.
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About that in crucial we heard Ted -- their -- should shimmer.
The lines drawn.
On how this immigration -- works it was it was.
But the bill still advance.
It is still going to the senate so it's still alive front -- yet some border security amendments were accepted somewhere not know which ones were except with a once that word except what what are the ones that what that we're Republicans really wanted.
It is a six months -- so that -- secure for the most part and that's determined.
And then you have the path to citizenship.
That was rejected another one that would have been double fencing.
Rejected and Republicans say that's going to be a big problem on on the senate floor.
There was put some more money put into border security.
There were some unanimously.
Amendments that were accepted but but that was the split and you know that's.
This is going to be very difficult amendment process but I think this is gonna get to the senate and the story's going to be.
What will the house -- is a bipartisan gang in the house there's been working for years on immigration reform plan and they are seeing either it's gonna come out this month.
Or it's not gonna come out at all so the house is not gonna have path to citizenship but sent -- Now now we're in and the -- that's -- -- the house is also trying to make clear that they're gonna do stuff they're gonna do something they're gonna break the bill into pieces and try to pass individual.
Parts of it but Democrats are -- -- that right now.
They're not and they want I mean days.
This the senate wants to get to a conference no matter what I mean that's what they're trying to do the gang of aides who pretty strong.
Liners on speculation over rubio students often and he told us -- on not getting cold feet.
-- in this and he voted with Democrats and some amendments.
Yesterday so that was key and but still.
Good Bob good lap did you -- committee.
Chairman in the house.
Is a former immigration lawyer Miguel knows this the idea is -- -- he's been out of the Internet here on the -- yeah.
He NFC is a very good reputation on the other side of the aisle Democrats really liked.
They call him good luck test because it sounds more starts to keep this.
And -- really John Boehner has deferred -- as chairman on that because it's a very difficult issue and and if there's been -- taken kind of a backseat since that's the -- and the debacle.
But at some point in his commitment costs.
Yeah well but he's not gonna let -- what Democrats for my -- This it's -- because we know the Democrats.
Have less to lose it doesn't pass yes it doesn't pass it's like fine we'll just use -- and then sooner or later we're gonna get the the bill we really want.
-- those who would like to see the legislation passed are hoping that Boehner will again violate what Republicans called -- rule which is to say.
You're not going to speaker won't let anything go to the floor that isn't supported by a majority of the majority that if you can't get the preponderance of Republicans to back a piece of legislation that you're not gonna use democratic votes to put it through.
Yeah and that that's the test but that Boehner is in and but I think congressional leaders including Boehner cantor McConnell also John Cornyn I think.
-- -- -- The GOP to pass them that they.
Want to give Obama -- did want to take this off the table politically is or John McCain is -- about.
And listen we we need to we need to do -- because we got trounced in 2012 months panics and this.
This -- at least begin the healing process between.
That Democrats against -- I you know a lot of stuff and I customers by the way you have sharks and -- -- starts a little -- is this like is this -- dolphins fans yes that's -- yeah.
Yeah I mean -- I knew what it's gonna sit in -- -- -- gonna happen this sharks under I don't know what that really means but so to other things to the president.
Today is holding a Mother's Day themed event to encourage people to sign up for the 2000 -- the expanded insurance things made available in -- point and -- off.
But as I wrote today.
Which you can have if you followed -- to start off on Twitter did you know that Internet if you follow me into settlement what -- you don't you I just treated it that's Q.
The -- there is a -- -- chasm between the kinds of concerns that exists about the off the administration is concerned that people don't know how to sign -- -- to sign -- -- to sign -- for a 144 days from the kick off this -- -- people zero people are enrolled in their concern that there -- not going to be -- -- -- to get this -- off the -- yet but if -- Jeanne -- or another senate Democrat facing reelection in 2014.
From a swing state -- red state.
Those are your concerns your concerns are as Shaheen said.
About businesses that are taking people from full time to part time for businesses that are dumping people off of their health insurance people that are laying off economic real time concern.
Yes that's right in -- and Democrats are very concerned behind the scenes that this implementation is going to be.
And it it at a -- and we don't know but the Democrats are very nervous especially the ones that are up for reelection in a sense you mention especially in the red states and one of the key things Americans and you really difficult for the administration is getting young people into the depths quote unquote pool via the mandate forces and -- But defined as a hundred dollars so if you're spreading especially those yes but then so I think a lot of people -- -- paid -- fine which is.
Debatable whether it's actually gonna happened in right analyzed and then -- then the healthy people don't get in the pool and in the risk pool that as they say and you have.
Not so healthy people but what happens that premiums go up that's -- And there's a complaint -- -- on the left and I told you so to the president that said you never should have done this through the insurance industry yet this president basically.
Lost his nerve they were going forward on what.
What -- of public option government run program sort of the Medicare and Medicaid for all Medicare and Medicaid for every one.
They were going forward on that the president didn't they get the votes so they went for.
And mandate which relies on that the insurance industry to do this and now.
Liberals are saying see it won't work because you can't ever let you make the mandate so punitive that you -- -- people and everybody else's insurance -- -- Iraq.
Yes and -- death Lisa Monday Morning Quarterback but it but I think the -- -- was right because that that bill barely.
Got to his desk area he didn't have have a public public option was not an option I think was gonna get smoked like he had -- -- so the lesson do feel that good anyway and they're probably just do an executive order to do with this.
But I'm gonna think about this time you spent some time thinking on it a shark I don't know what this means there's something.
It's -- West -- Story then it's dolphins thing I'm not sure I don't know what we'll get to the bottom of it -- and thank you about -- -- -- OK look here's the thing the IRS disarm.
There is what you know it's our that it unfairly targeted.
Conservative super pacs and Tea Party groups for off states.
Mistakes were made they say.
We'll talk about that when we come back as well as what's gonna happen with those same -- those -- -- super -- When it comes down to try to -- Hillary Clinton.
With the bad guys he suffered when he sixteen yes it's time to start talking about it's an equivalent an act.
And stick around.
Your diplomatic veteran.
For daring to blow the whistle and under Hillary Clinton's not -- Why did she -- the video.
What -- say protest alleged because of guys out for a walk when -- decide they go kill some Americans are quite different.
At this point does didn't make the difference.
And you were American lives were zero.
Is a new ad that went bad for now.
From American crossroads you've heard of them they are a conservative super but super -- And they are laying out what will be.
Eventually part of the case against Hillary Clinton who you know doggone well is running for president.
And this is power -- and what about that.
Let's talk about how things will.
Play out on bad guys and I'm sure we will hear something else about the latest developments on Ben Ghazi minister investigation today.
Because we have people who know things of practical.
And theoretical both and you know and we're very happy to welcome back Tony Welch is a former Press Secretary for the democratic national.
Many you follow him or should that FT doves on the twitters the other -- -- that makes you a democratic strategists -- this is accurate this is just going with what we know we're going with what we know.
Is executive director of America rising -- and he is probable -- -- -- DC.
And ten minutes for a veteran of the Romney camp and that -- Republican right indeed OK just checking to make sure we've -- everybody on the right team.
Okay now it -- and first of all I -- before we get to the bad guys and stuff.
Tim the break before we took on the air here the IRA that we saw the IRS apologize because they targeted conservative super -- -- said.
We shouldn't have done that and so congratulations on certainly conservative super thank you.
No longer -- at the IRS apparently.
Do you do you suppose -- and I.
Tony I wonder if this is the case.
That everybody's in the super -- game now these -- the idea it's understandable that if the IRS was targeting super -- that they would have been targeting conservative super -- is the preponderance of them wherever they're now that it's everybody's game sort of wide open.
That should always -- occasionally we stipulate -- fairness should always be -- -- But that no matter how many there are huge public -- complaint.
Yeah you don't you don't investigate classes unless the unless you're complaint is by the way here's a practice in that area -- -- should take a look at.
Yeah he's pretty simple stuff.
It's even they put it has specific.
Instruction to -- -- groups that were called either Tea Party or patriots.
Woods aren't exactly the kinds.
Folks that the IRS should be looking at just with no other evidence another reason to be looking at them and that's also a story that you see in the onion.
-- and sometimes it's just early often resilient in this case right you guys not inaccurate it's just too soon and sometimes.
My tank says -- is are we went after the Tea Party but now we want all your medical -- Don't do anything adamant about -- not not that that's going to cause any anxiety.
So good so enough about that that I I want to get this been -- stuff and what the super pacs actually going to be doing.
A next -- -- -- you guys have a you guys have already started the purpose of your group is to -- -- -- Opposition research and information.
For Republicans and conservative groups out there you guys are ready to build a portfolio on Clinton on this stuff.
Yeah absolutely you can go to America arising dot Tumblr dot com to see the stuff that we've done on the Ben Ghazi hearing in particular.
And you know what our group is going to be doing is is building -- database.
Resurgence that are on all of the potential 26 team owners but looking at Hillary and that's looking back and it's.
All of her previous iterations and government as -- -- time the State Department and tracking her day today.
From here on forward and certainly there's been Ghazi situation is going to be a big issue for her and -- sixteen I think a lot of voters when made.
Think about Hillary the State Department.
In between generic they say they have a nice showing about her time as a states person but the only really tangible thing folks are gonna remembers them Gaza and says this is going to be -- -- -- in the.
-- did you know that did you hear that sound it was Tony launches eyebrow arch hotel here that was all I did inherit all around -- better America.
Well Tony did you tell what -- too much America we will have been gusting and we see another tragedy.
And something that should be investigated -- echo what what what's going off.
And many others.
This is opportunity.
This is opportunity which is why we haven't been in effect.
The first in kind contribution of the 2016 campaign offered on behalf of the American taxpayer by -- -- Because that hearing was laid out as we're gonna get to the truth we're gonna find out about the truth and what happened here.
It's amazing this is their discussion really about the truth of why that happened.
No because then you might hear discussion of the 300 million dollars cut from embassy security but because it isn't about that.
We're going gonna hear about emails and that that narrow focus is the hell.
And indeed the other big tell is the American crossroads -- today so Karl Rove gets an early jump that on that -- bad to say.
This is what this is all about in case anyone was confuse this isn't about being -- this is about and -- -- -- and opportunity they were.
Did you -- Eyebrow arching -- -- also largely Tony has more veteran eyebrow very makes more noise when he puts it up this press here.
City the question.
But that's how all of these investigations happen when Hillary Clinton standard that she wanted a panel to study mistakes made in -- Hurricane Katrina.
No doubt her heart.
Was broken for people who who had died in the storm.
But it probably was not in considerable.
Debt George W.
Bush was president and Republicans were there at the time.
I always this is the man this is they truly -- if if Tony's gonna talk of his playing politics of the story out this morning from Jon Karl who is over and ABC.
And what he identified were twelve emails that were sent between the CIA and the State Department.
Looking over those talking points what are we gonna say about being -- And what did we see in those emails what they stripped from the talking points was.
Warnings from the CIA to the State Department that Ben Ghazi was going to be a target and that we had security concerns there that's true and references to terrorism.
And what's this a State Department staff said in response to those emails is our leadership has concerns that this is gonna make us look that.
And they've literally said that in the emails so it was clear that the State Department what had political line.
To discussing what was happening in Benghazi and so.
I think that's if you're going to point the finger of listed put -- nation you can look at these emails today and see that it was happening inside the State Department when we really should have been focused on finding out.
The problems of the abdomen -- and how we can -- just.
-- clear by Activision isn't what is the station of this hard working -- -- good the finger equivalent.
Back to back it if it isn't it's the emptiness of this.
We don't they know what.
Utter emptiness and here's what I mean I'm talking I'm I'm talking with the accused of view the -- be the biggest comments in the -- hearings I mean by that is.
-- said we must have this email right right we have this White House email.
Did you receive email that the day before had been quoted in the hearings.
So Republicans have seen this in other words Friday the deal was I -- it'd be an instrument does that doesn't make why let this other stuff political cities of Iran.
I don't know Watergate -- -- I don't know there's a difference it says.
If if you want to get to the root of the matter find -- principal issues between what happened here faster earnest question what happened here.
Then that fits into a political realm of course politicians are talking about it but you don't get -- -- you still have to have substance in you don't get to come -- what's really at this and you don't get to come and say we will talk nothing about the 300 million dollars and confident.
I have three and a 300 million dollars and cut out of -- security and only Hillary Clinton email about that money.
And and Tony I don't know if you watched the hearings to three whistle blowers.
-- -- we're just the facts that was three folks who were on the ground.
Talking about how astonished they -- by Secretary Clinton and Susan rice's response talking about how.
They are we have heard about a lot of our deal that they -- -- the -- -- it was like these everybody that I I would solely because they didn't.
This is Susan are just talking points were not the gist of what doctor hicks brought to the table all right what he did not only an hour is.
The he talked Secretary Clinton on the -- of the attacks and and and Nordstrom talked about how.
Hillary you would have seen the cables that warned about the need for more security incident that gets to what you're talking about there was little need for more security and then.
All right we're network we're we won't solve this Greg Chiang says -- -- he should not be about presidential politics at this point.
Let's get to the facts about how Americans that should not have died did but Greg but Greg the only way anything ever -- this is like.
Political advantage the finger of -- position as -- that.
If you know anything ever occurs in this city it's like bribery in the old Soviet system.
Nothing happens until the -- this -- in this -- nothing happens until somebody can take political advantage or otherwise nobody but nobody is motivated.
Because we don't know what human nature's like and there's like a lot of human nature here in Washington DC that's just the way it is I promise that that is true.
Will -- last will this last guys don't tell me quickly ten seconds each when we get to 26 team will this be an issue town.
This will indeed last that will be the longest with voting campaign.
And her team has begun now you and I are paying for end and they are going to ensure that we're still talking about even though there's nothing there and -- -- you're -- probably.
Revote would it's a different well I think the facts are on our side.
That's -- get a continue to target isn't the only thing that Tony has is to.
You know my oldest daughter out of left -- everything you can.
They're right there Tony has a lot in this scenario -- more than that final day of Jim we thank you for joining us Sony.
Welcome back it's going to be okay -- that we're gonna take a quick break when we come back.
-- -- gonna talk about something that is really important which is why is that our veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan are struggling to get the care and services they need.
Despite protection from sequestration productions and despite all of these other things the system's broken and we're gonna talk to somebody was trying to fix it -- stick around.
And that is what it looks like when happily when families happily greet their returning warriors from Afghanistan.
After they've served their tours of duty.
And this is power play and the happiness of that moment for many of those families often turns -- deepening frustration.
As those veterans tried to get the services from the veterans administration.
That they were promised that both parties always promise that every time everybody's running for office say should absolutely be there and in fact the political support for the veterans administration is so great that when they did this sequestration reductions.
That the agency was substantially -- -- -- it still doesn't work and people are getting what they need and we've heard of mounting reports about.
All long backlogs for care even for some who are in real crisis so.
All the politicians say something ought to be done but what could really be done what could be done about that somebody who has an idea is Tom Tarantino.
He's the chief policy officer for Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.
This is correct yes sir all right Andy and I take you served in Iraq or Afghanistan I was so leader -- Iraq in 2000 OK well thank you for your service and thanks for coming here.
OK so what's to be done in the situation I was reading up on it this morning situations pretty bad.
-- -- this is that this is a problem that is really decades in the making and it's it's you know it is a problem getting the benefits.
That you've earned through injuries that -- sustained service you know most people don't understand the Department of Veterans Affairs is actually.
Three separate agencies and you have the health care side.
Which would Steve with the exception of getting timely mental health care is actually pretty squared away and if you're -- veteran out there and -- you your serve in Iraq and Afghanistan you get five years of free healthcare.
And it's added by and large very very good high quality the problem is is if you -- -- get the benefits you have earned and which is your disability compensation the week.
On average right now is 273.
Days that you're a veteran pro where weight regiment.
It -- it take so I was is that this is this is for -- people were injured in Iraq and Afghanistan -- injured any type of injury that is connected to your service and you're entitled to compensation and special care.
I if you're in Iraq or Afghanistan veteran.
You're waiting over 300 days and if you're in a major city the -- can be as long as 600 days they're -- does it take so I mean we're talking about sending checks right.
I mean this is about a evaluating the disability -- the disability -- and unfortunately this is a process that was obsolete for most veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan wherever -- It is still a paper based process although the VA is changing that they're gonna have a digital claims process rolled out by the end of the year.
But the problem is that 60% of the stuff coming from the Department of Defense is still on paper -- and 97% of the claims that are sitting there waiting in these.
These buildings these giant stacks of paper.
Not digitize -- -- biggest.
Wounded in in the line.
And they come home in the Pentagon's.
Tends to file to the -- to say this is a guy who is potentially eligible for this then it's up to the VA.
To make a determination about whether or not this person is is deserving.
And in there in there's two problems with this first of all it's there's an understanding this is not just about yeah.
BA is actually worked on some ways to modernize this the last few years -- there are things that are getting better.
But ultimately this is about.
The DOT in the DA having an integrated.
Electronic health record system -- which they've been trying for four years but for some reason that is beyond all -- of logic.
They haven't been able to achieve this is something that the private sector does all the time -- this is the government we are talking.
This is true this is true but that's why we're calling on the president of United States to for once -- step in and fix this problem.
It has to start with integrating DOT India and that it has just that it has to go into modernizing the resident hall so does it cost to do this what's it cost -- -- I got.
No I actually think it would be a lot cheaper because you're you're gonna Wear tight there's a cash crunch right now.
You know credit -- this that he has an electronic health -- system they're one of the first in the country and it's a great system that's open source it's free in fact.
You can download the source code so that if your private health care industries that you can use that.
-- the DOT is not there they have three separate systems that are close sorts that had spent the better but still -- lots of contracts.
If the hole if the government adopts an electronic open source health record system.
You're talking about something that doesn't cost a lot of money is that you can use -- the existing technology infrastructure and it.
It's going to improve care from those of us we're moving from the Department of Defense to the department of veterans affairs and ultimately this is going to be a huge help.
In reducing -- back.
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You don't -- another staff you know I'm telling you this you don't really know -- I'm telling you this you know invented Mother's Day in -- Jarvis in Fairmont, West Virginia.
So all the moms out there as you're getting your breakfast in bed with the carnation and everything just remember it's because of West Virginia that you have that I'm just -- and just putting it out there.
And good job on the hunt with Jonathan Hunt is up next and now as we like to do every day we -- -- leave you with the word from our friend -- Us if you -- originally concerned ought to be at the end of a process of discovery of facts.
And not right away otherwise it becomes a theatrical event and I think it'll hurt the investigation.
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