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Good morning I'm Doug shown -- Here with my friends and colleagues Pat -- John absolutely -- we are political insiders where we tell the truth without fear or favor about what's going on.
In American politics and sometimes the world at large.
Today we have a being abroad and potentially very important agenda.
To talk about we're gonna start.
With the particular the South Carolina race.
We're gonna ask patent just -- second summarize what happened given that he's a resident of the district.
And then we're gonna go on to.
Of course -- gutsy but there is an emerging scandal with the IRS well we're gonna do it will be I think the first people to do this.
-- to talk about how the two scandals are related and what that means for America.
But pat would you begin and tell us what happened in South Carolina.
Well first ball let's just remember proved everyone that few predicted that -- were pulled out.
-- John my thoughts basically did -- we all thought it was called no one and -- nobody believed was going to be an -- point no I certainly did not nobody in South Carolina anonymous.
We thought it was close but the -- clearly it happened it was a big -- Was almost a third for special what -- -- -- accomplished because.
Finally Sanford and -- the endorsement Scott a Republican to blast was nationalized the race.
They went after the labor unions and answered almost missed terribly unpopular.
And I have always believed that that was the -- we discussed that was their only strategy.
And it worked and Republicans came home that's the answer they said -- -- too close to -- hold our nose and vote for him.
So -- in fact the the Democrats and Pelosi and their packs we overdid it they outspent -- for we don't want.
And we made it worse by emphasizing the point so -- -- -- -- I didn't think he was gonna win certainly didn't think he was gonna win by this huge margin -- some of those outlying counties he won by 40%.
They didn't turn out more than I have for probably the county she did best and he turned out -- to -- it turned out what Charleston -- Which were closer in -- -- -- even bigger part I didn't really negligence.
-- -- the core Republican vote.
Was just big enough.
That given that the race is -- says was nationalized.
He was able to -- what was a ultimately comfortable bit -- maybe this -- two weeks out starting with us on a Sunday that he was blowing this race.
Maybe that Galvin -- start -- that is right because when I have seen in these -- campaigns.
For Colbert bush you would have in retrospect.
Made more sense to have caught him on where's the last weekend run five days rather than.
As we've got -- also -- and let me just say she had some problems.
Because they tried -- -- good reason keeper from the press.
But on the 1 -- last stage of the campaign instead of being surprised.
They went after her -- Pelosi obamacare mean she was almost you know when the debate as you watched it and texted dug in me that night might -- -- -- about war in -- parents -- turned him.
After that well.
Let me turn.
To the news of the week and -- -- ask you to start.
We've talked yesterday at great length about -- Ghazi.
Tom -- won that it was an orchestrated.
For the election to speak of the tragedy.
In terms that would allow it to be a reaction to what film rather than the terrorist attack it almost certainly proved to be.
But we now have.
A -- well first the IRS.
Was perceived to have targeted.
Tea Party -- patriot groups now they appear to have targeted any groups that were whatever constitution base of our.
Hard to stop -- -- -- -- constitution base or in some way opposition.
To the president.
John what do you take from.
I have number one I think for our viewers on fox and on the dot com I think this'll end up being a bigger scandal for then then the -- gutsy thing.
Not to minimize bank -- bit dead people and wise.
But this one.
Everybody has a problem with -- IRS everybody reports to the IRS and the if you begin to think the IRS.
If you're a Republican is coming after you know.
You're going to be really ticked off -- -- -- this is a low level -- this was not who would do I do not believe this could have happened.
Without a wink and a nod.
From the administration.
Pat absolutely not he couldn't have been more warm we're gonna find out every minute they already -- today we find out hierarchy and longer.
I think it's GB and what's gonna sustain it dispersed -- it's not just keep Doug is not just Tea Party some patriot we now know.
The -- boat which was a group whose only involved in ballots -- -- whether or not feel like you should be.
They've been very should be -- -- to audits last year including the above the woman who heads its form -- -- The secure America now what kind of ball movement.
Effort on national security.
It would she went through hoops and that was attacked had just been huge amount to anything that had to -- of opposition.
Or question the administration or any position and what the key is you see they're not all -- -- not all be career bureaucrats there are a lot of political people.
Material when me when their -- and retire or leave about it.
Who get -- -- into the agencies is civil servants.
We're gonna find this went back and let me just say there is a culture here don't you think dog in because if -- Chicago -- through all of to discuss for several years.
In the cold for about coming out of the White House attacking every one it filters down people get -- Rated -- one other thing that's different.
Thank god she's been raging since September 11 and only.
Eight days ago seven days ago did the mainstream media start to really cover the fight this thing started.
Friday afternoon when the IRS came for the media.
All the media is reporting this big tops on the front of the New York Times -- -- Should post a journal reported is -- -- not -- -- that pat is said.
You have -- White House that almost certainly.
All -- and pat you know the document -- and I -- of the quotes from September 11 and one livable you read one of the White House ahead.
-- -- It's a film.
It was an act of terror it was a demonstration.
That they couldn't even get their stories straight.
-- you've got that plus the IRS and suddenly the norms of democratic government transparency.
A civil servants.
That is distinct from the political -- All of that has been eviscerate at will that's obvious yes and then the -- administration -- -- do you have to say.
Just for our audience that the funniest story this morning is Carl Bernstein of Watergate saying he couldn't imagine -- Obama White House actually doing some -- -- -- RS -- if I can't.
I can imagine.
Download sites and accused the culprit.
What really start.
You know the irony here and he'd seen from everybody -- the Watergate in my -- the parallel -- really crazy.
Nixon won the impeachment articles was about the RS we have been -- going all which yesterday.
And just to summarize my point where we said you'd go wipe out -- start with what did the president know where was he and hum dominant.
The invisible national security advisor.
Who I said yesterday we I think we talked about.
You know who was basically in a policy of minimizing marginalize you.
-- -- directly in between -- and we in the country all for political purposes.
All of this is but what happens -- your feet don't you think dog they're feeding each other.
There isn't there is the synergy.
And they'll have to say in Hollywood who synergy here is very powerful this synergy is powerful the.
Impact very disturbing but I would have put something up on the screen -- the UN John yesterday said was very disturbing I'd like to play.
The bad guys he had it's the seven B.
It's the American crossroads.
But -- -- I would like to see that.
And -- see Libya.
Terrorist -- kind of kills more Americans including -- Stevens.
Secretary of state Hillary Clinton is pleased to win yeah.
Ambassadors -- yeah wants infect terrorism.
Pat what do you say about that I just I can't believe I had it first ball and I heard.
Karl Rove -- -- this this morning on Fox's it's been part of the series.
No we're a very critical moment where we knew -- -- -- -- -- truth in bite politicizing this by can be go after Hillary Clinton.
When first of all the focus starts in the White House that's the -- were more where -- the decision for me it works from there.
But in politicizing this is a lousy at home to New York Times -- example.
And they'll push back on this and other Democrats and media which is just say okay it's an attack on Hillary you're only trying to go -- you know we.
What we are about to have -- -- it's -- really critical -- honor.
In truth in this country on this matter you know -- to be drowned.
But political station on both time I have -- for people people wanna talk about impeachment and politics and when he -- the goal.
This the American people deserve the truth.
And we need to get out and or or -- -- the whole country will -- You know just as you're saying I agree is that.
Rove politicized in this helps Obama because it purpose keeps everything over on Hillary and he can attack rove and the Republicans.
Republicans today are waking up for the first time in a long time they are the victims.
In the -- -- scandal.
Of egregious governmental abuse right where the victims.
We should not.
-- that advantage -- we should be the victims -- that scandal.
And the objective impartial judges.
And -- Gaza rise above the politics I wanna see Boehner rebuke -- Ask them to take the at all crap while you ought to be ought to take -- -- We're gonna have to select committee that we've -- why hasn't -- a conference like well we've we've talked about what could it have been worth.
I think it's probably number one he is so beaten down by -- all the stuff he did with Obama two years ago in the debt ceiling.
That he's afraid of his own caucus and the leaders and a -- -- -- -- yeah but the senior guys don't want it is de ice.
Rogers the chairman of the five standing committees they want their piece of thank god see if the select committees created is taken away from they're not on TV.
This is this -- there's beyond the jurisdictional problem then to -- been very slow or whatever reasons he is on this.
But until we -- us like me and we need to explain to our audience why its -- why is it -- -- because so important because this instead of these sporadic episodic.
Hearings by different committees -- different people one day and then it goes to what went on what you medias and an investigation.
Select committee -- the chief counsel and minorities that the majority -- Who can actually investigate as an ongoing process can take apart as a mystery.
What happened that night what happened -- what what happened afterwards we found out.
You know mr.
Pickering announced yesterday in the air and again this morning trying to defend his indefensible.
Kind of news and some of them being reported on -- John.
No one has looked at the larger thing and until you're put able to put the president's -- Tom doll all the White House people state farm that underwrote.
And what a timeline and parted to gather the ditches and several critical questions which what what one of them being.
Where the heck did these talking point of this video.
Come from isn't as a narrative you'll want to the talking points it didn't get -- land from the sky somewhere it happened until you can do that and actually.
Have an investigation -- -- just like whether it's Iran Contra or Watergate we will not get to the bottom of the.
Apparently when it was correct Frank Wolf the congress and -- -- my class a friend of mine from Virginia he is the author of the resolution as a 139 co sponsors Republican us.
Asking Boehner to appoint this committee and on Thursday the day after the the last round of hearings last week he said quote.
If speaker Boehner does not name the select committee he will be seen as complicit.
In the cover up and that is usually mean.
Ordered that a strong work I think the speaker need to FaceBook when we come back I would like to talk about something.
That we haven't yet discussed.
Which is if you were in the White House today -- What would you tell the present.
Will be back in bat that these things.
-- this is Doug -- -- back with pat could challenge on the blue today.
We're gonna take up a couple of questions we were talking welfare -- I think John should speak to.
Which is what's the strategy for the Republicans -- -- select committee when will they.
Asked for a job I asked you what's the over under on when speaker Boehner were lets -- not just speaker banners the leadership of the Republican conference.
Can't -- the other guys have to be -- this thing and one -- they could do what I think they will do it by the end of this month by Memorial Day it's coming.
Politically it has to come theirs too there's a 139.
Members out of 232.
That's more than half so I think that haven't -- and I think the way he can mollify these committee chairman is put them all on the select committee select committee.
-- chairman of a super committee and so wouldn't meet until I tat I'm going to be -- us what goes on here.
Say Mike Rogers the chairman of the intelligence is mentioned like decent guy -- you ever heard him before a few weeks ago not.
He suddenly on the Sunday shows all the time he loves this his constituents love and his donors love -- Now if you take this plot away from.
He's not getting on the Sunday shows.
But if you put him on the select committee he'll then be a little happier and -- resistant ones and you.
You -- and look -- -- I think we need to understand why the pressure and what.
Cannot be aborted now which should not be aborted it's in the couple the polling numbers I don't -- -- but a lot of -- but the fox poll in April.
Which showed you know what it's what the number.
One -- no number number com and number four and number five just run the filter members foreign reporters.
President should the president been emboldened briefings on the night have been -- attack.
Should have been -- -- 29 propped on -- probably had a good reason not to now if we go sleeping.
It is a good reason so if we go Q -- one with on a number -- which is just Democrats on that question should.
You know just Democrat no number two number two.
We will see based sport.
When Democrats at this stage in late April before the hearing last week in the MetLife elbow grease and putting on news this is now a -- year and that's why you cannot part of snipers.
And the last one I would ask is.
On the question the other big miss seeing.
-- -- -- from the way I've been so far Harper's.
The fact that these survivors should be subpoenaed.
-- two thirds of the American people including a plurality or majority of Democrats 67%.
In nobody's heard from him yet and what.
These are these are people who were in bank got US personnel in Ben Ghazi who were evacuated the next day or night.
And -- congress has not been allowed even to post them in private.
So the real question dug them becomes the one you suggests -- -- -- -- -- Which is what's present -- -- -- -- what would you tell Oprah a total purse of one thing -- which is what it should have been said.
When big got to happen go to the country and help him if you don't get in front of it.
Report full look at the tepid response party on the IRS all while you don't for forget rooted -- party because he has now become toxic.
Ron Ziegler and drag if you will if crudely from those remember Watergate.
He it is.
EVE I would go out there and say I would taking advantage let's get to the bottom of this also quarter committee.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- IRS special prosecutor are this stuff should not borrow money IRS once -- -- Because he's not out there with statements that he is on bank Gaza that you have a walk back that made the IRS he needs to get -- and -- -- if I didn't say anything.
After the hearing I'm more concerned -- you know that's what -- -- As we've been seen he's the president sort of orderly but it really because of this focused on Hillary Clinton partly by the Republicans people -- -- play when he should be involved it.
Look it rests with the president of the United States it rests with the person -- relies on to manage this stuff which is Tom -- -- And until you start there you only -- that's his purposes that's why -- concerning thing and it's getting to be awfully late isn't it amazing that nobody even Coles comes on when tries to get him on the record not.
And reports and Obama why is set to tell us one reason why is -- a source for so much of what goes on.
The reporters don't wanna burn that's the deal would you make sure that's right and that's how would you got the problem for the president used to this president in this country.
Is that Tom Donovan ultimately -- -- -- -- it was better try to manipulate just like Watergate and from state protect the election.
But it was to get out in front of us and -- the country which by the way you don't you believe.
That the country -- -- -- the present it and instead we've been attacked.
This is all last month according influence our election of -- last gasp from terrorism we're gonna get -- of course.
But the general rule of leaking is all tell you some things.
If you keep me out of this not just a storm but he says keep me out of every -- that's my point though that that this is sort of how you can identify someone without Davies they're every time she gave a check your right on the words -- domino effect right to New York Times reporter I mean it's so clear.
So John -- radio host in Tampa Sarasota this weekend asked me on the IRS story he told me.
I know who leaked or who communicated to the IRS.
To -- intimidate.
I I absolutely believe it happened the idea that the national security advisor.
Would get involved in domestic politics to give an instruction to the IRS.
Is very hard to believe on the other -- me on the in my only other you have -- On the other you know win the players are on the other hand there's not much about mr.
-- that would surprise.
You know where it has kind of reaches that -- all over the classical -- and had a well what's that got you know it's everybody worked in the NFC.
His brother in politics and his brother's wife is the chief of staff for the have you heard about national security advisor with a lower profile this job used to be a week high profile yesterday Kissinger marriages -- Henry Kissinger -- -- Brzezinski.
Was -- bond rallies and Condoleezza Rice peripheral in this issue.
And Stephen Hadley.
You would have heard them.
We've heard nothing of Don notably they may have been -- it was even asked the -- only one who did stuff.
-- like this from burger with the stealing of the documents when -- was -- but I'm no -- National Guard during a crisis while it's going on nobody even mentioned this is amazing.
An -- and and I find it and by the way the other reason may be in this is a the article about when you find out.
That the president men of CBS news that his brother.
Works directly for Tom about he's the better roads that was a deliberate and boy all of all changing be talking points we find out.
When you have the president of ABC's sister working for the Tennessee may be what they have done Obama has done is very shrewdly.
Packed every one from Juanita Jordan I wanted to put their -- -- people.
In the NFC it's -- brilliant little.
Do we know -- Donald has ever said anything.
On the record about them doesn't warrant -- no but I tell you what a division the recognition we should check the record.
And I look forward to the day after -- after they get everybody -- -- -- -- bring him that's what an investigation does.
-- several -- -- executive privilege to yank him out -- way if that becomes a question.
Baton blows administration.
If in fact it all points to him and he's claimed that the president involvement -- borrow directly.
-- you know we're a ways away we've got a long -- this alert for any errors select committee in seven -- as the republic we do to stop playing pollen we.
-- have a commitment here political outsiders we just have about a minute or so ago but let me just summarize what it is and ask you gentlemen for final moments.
We will stick with this story the IRS story.
The issues of government abuse political views whether they -- that Democrats and the Republicans.
Until we reach a conclusion.
Right we will talk about them in the context of politics -- what it means for our system.
But we will talk about the greater good about fixing our system.
About making sure that America works and delivers on the constitutional promises and offers.
And and John we're gonna do all that by waiting for this coming Friday afternoon because the -- story it was revealed Friday afternoon the all family wanted to go to the big.
Pointed don't dissect which -- -- statement of our purpose which I totally want to associate -- Because basically let me say this to the audience of one thing about us -- -- we -- whether we're right or wrong we try to put the country in the true.
I have a party in and in and have -- and have a political spinning or and for John look closely and for Pactiv dealt.
And for myself.
We do put the country first will be back 530.
Or thereabouts on Sunday afternoon on the fox.
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