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And -- Is the east room of the White House the executive mansion where and it.
A group of reporters are wondering how.
How they will if given the opportunity to get a question in a totally unglued in a press conference and totally and related topics that includes both.
Allegations -- the confession by the Internal Revenue Service that they unfairly inappropriately targeted groups who didn't like the government.
-- a spate of recent revelations about the terrorist -- on the US diplomatic outpost in Benghazi Libya.
And this is power play and I -- Chris Farrell and we have plenty of time we have thirty minutes of Internet television excellence it will get to all of that.
We'll let you know when the president starts -- going to be there with prime minister David Cameron.
The United Kingdom.
And we will we will keep you up to speed on that we will talk about.
That to -- scandal singing that's going on right now with the IRS we will also talk about the latest on Ben Ghazi we will do that.
We will have a handle we will have excellence we will have goodness good natured doesn't -- -- has always.
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We know AV as columnist for the -- we ultimately be as you have but a more grandiose title to go -- -- -- Associate editor associates -- -- associates with -- editors.
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Doesn't get its -- you're not as much of a victim of spin and -- so we thank you for being.
The sentencing day that -- problem -- probably the worse.
Probably the worst week for the administration I think since they.
Came in and they haven't had to do this much you know.
They haven't had to do this the no drama Obama idea and there wasn't scandal and when people got overheated making claims.
The president was in a very good position to say.
What -- you we've been talking about you behind you bunch of birthers you bunch of weirdos -- bunch of whatever is out and now on two things -- fast succession.
There's been some painful admissions for the administration.
I want to start with.
Look at this one this is what there was a famous back and forth about a dozen or so changes that were made to the talking -- secretary of state.
Our four the Buick US ambassador to the United Nations and this one was from Victoria new and she said.
References to al-Qaeda she was talking about.
Could be abused by members of congress to beat up the state department for not paying attention to warning so why would we want to feed that either concerned she wrote.
And when you -- is are emails that were provided to congressional investigators when you finally get to the point.
When you know that in this exchange about what to say about this that these kinds of considerations that people using this against the administration factored into it.
It get you to an interest in home.
Well she essentially many analysts saying wait why don't we don't want defendants are the region because obviously we didn't do this this State Department didn't just -- -- jobs so.
They don't want to criticize a job performance.
That's not accountability that's not responsibility and that's.
That's when it when our securities -- everyone has the -- is -- you can't papered over so.
In the act.
Massage -- all this talking points twelve times we discredited ally in the Libyan president who's coming on the same day Susan Rice on the talk shows saying.
It was a terrorist attack we now know that whether it's just a political turf.
Battle between the CIA in the State Department -- whatever it is it was it was petty and and it was not us.
Completely on -- and it doesn't serve the investigation there's concern the FBI was hindered from.
-- in investigation.
The speed and efficiency with which think he -- the bottom of what went on there on the ground because -- discredited are part of the Libyan president.
And it's it's just incredible that.
At this point they would try to say anything but oh well.
You know this -- got the emails and you've got all the and it urges immediate.
There is a way to handle this I believe between a tenth of November and Thanksgiving.
Helio won the election if he wanted to keep it from everybody it was time to -- it out that this isn't really.
Really quite dramatic.
And it's just not having listened to -- whistle blowers just not.
It's it's just not okay that ain't him -- that so many failures happen but that.
Now they're trying to -- it's really OK as they are asked me they really have -- President Obama really needs to step up and say even if I'm not.
Responsible for these types of things I'm accountable.
And and the fact that we would have anyone at any agency -- particularly our asked.
Going and can targeting.
For greater scrutiny.
When people for their political beliefs -- is not allowed to happen and so does it mean they've the president says well it's their independent agencies out.
It's not -- I didn't do anything wrong fine they did something wrong and you're the boss so.
There's really no way act is no way for them to do you know drama anymore they really have to meet this head on that serving very forthcoming.
And they really.
I think he's being.
He's not being served well -- his.
Associates who are not appreciate the level of.
Damage that this is -- inflict upon him this is very small window left for him to do anything instructive before his window president.
This could shut it.
You know its -- it.
Because I wrote a column on this earth to -- Forward today.
And I just treated it unless twitters if you follow me -- he's now you can have it and I said this the best recipes for lame duck soup.
Call for healthy scoop of -- then Obama just got himself a double.
And this is how lame duck attitude -- You have.
Your power starts winning.
Members of your own party.
Become dispute patients and uncooperative yeah which we saw -- the George W.
Bush had all of this.
Reagan had this Clinton it was weird because -- impeachment thing.
But this is the Linda -- -- the president already had this.
Win senate Democrats said no thanks on gun control said no thanks on keeping this sequestration -- the FAA and other things they've become restive.
Yeah because they're facing reelection now you add to it.
It was amazing to watch on the Sunday shows if you if if you look around -- everything was said.
Statements were being made about an -- that four months ago could have only been coming out of the mouths.
Are now -- oh well of course we shaded -- -- lead it of course it was that way but it.
It's complicated and it was hard and I mean so were.
Do the the duck -- is cooking.
Yeah -- and that's it and I think that.
Well Republicans have no choice but to.
Investigate all of this and and and provide oversight and -- it is it.
They they shouldn't also spend all their time on these scandals just because I think that they should be out promoting a substantive agenda.
-- -- If you look at what's going on with the implementation of obamacare Arnold and Syria generalities instructor presidencies just candles along I think it's successfully suck up.
The last bit of -- -- has to get a budget deal -- maybe even immigration reform before the window of time.
You were before you -- that that that moment in this -- -- of this year were the campaigns for the mid terms or in full swing.
So let's say you were there in the east -- today the president was going to call on you when he has this press conference.
What would you ask.
-- I would ask we know what it knowing what he knows why he hasn't felt.
The more -- responsibility.
To talk about Ben Ghazi and not send Jay Carney out decisions is semantics the gymnastics -- -- run.
And knowing that what he knows.
-- -- the IRS single.
-- why wouldn't he.
Even make a preliminary statement.
On Friday -- do what is he what is he waiting for easy reading for.
The more answers she took a -- the minute this broken set I don't know how all the answers and we had they're gonna roll everything's gonna get cleaned up.
We'll let you know every step of the way.
And why does he think that he doesn't owe people an immediate response to two things that are that profound and he doesn't think he has -- he hasn't given up.
Oh I wish you were getting questions.
So I was -- giving present and there's a final sort of irony in this.
That -- office that did this was in Cincinnati sorry since man stands.
But the -- the president was in Ohio.
Two weeks ago or two Sundays ago giving the commencement address at Ohio State where he made an impassioned plea for people to have more confidence in the government.
Greater trust in the government to do things and not listen to radicals who said that tyranny -- was around every corner.
To have this come out does rather puncture a doctrine that encourages people to have.
All I ask is that I can't -- for his own prospects for his own place in history for his -- three whole years ahead but more than that.
He needs to start trying to mitigate the damage because this kind of a -- leads him to make even his own supporters believe the government get tangling up and -- -- and.
Again putting them under the spotlight if for no you know legal reason and that is.
And he he he needs to if he believes in in inefficient.
And Smart government he needs to jump out even more and say this is not what it's for us to do so as to help us you know.
It defend us to do these days is exactly what it's not supposed to do and the -- -- -- a bigger problem in this.
Limited from the IRS is watching I just went into this I think you're doing a great job keep -- Totally content with ever hang on your customer service and everything -- and -- Halfway through congress maybe I sincerely happy with -- presence thanks change some minds all you do for us here I've listened and asked.
-- -- We're gonna take a quick break when we come back we're gonna have a really good and we're gonna have got -- and Jim Pinkerton we'll be here we'll talk about.
-- set -- -- About what happened with the IRS -- to correct.
But -- here first and foremost as he prepares to host the G-8 next month I appreciate him.
Updating me on the agenda as it takes shape.
And we discussed how the summit will be another opportunity to sustain.
The global economic recovery with a focus on growth and creating jobs for -- people.
Michelle -- are looking forward to visiting NORTHERN IRELAND and I know some it's going to be great success under David's fine leadership.
We discussed the importance of moving ahead with the EU.
Towards negotiations on the trans Atlantic trade and investment partnership.
Our extensive trade with the the UK is central to our rather.
Our broader transatlantic.
Economic relationship which supports more than thirteen million jobs.
I want to thank David for his strong support for building on those times and I look forward to launching negotiations with the U.
And those are the pleasantries typical.
-- a bilateral press conference especially one that's being held with the most.
-- an ally of the United States.
Great Britain the prime minister of great Britain and this is power play welcome back.
Now if you -- -- see president's press conference it is available on regular television that is true you could be watching him right now.
But for the purposes of what's driving the political discussion today.
It sure as heck is not what's going on in power plays ancestral homeland of NORTHERN IRELAND.
Were -- transatlantic tax reform.
It's about Ben Ghazi and it's about the IRS and that's going to be driving the discussions were the foreseeable future here in Washington so.
People who can foresee things for -- well very effectively indeed.
-- shown he is a Fox News contributor that's true.
He is also.
Former -- were present president William Jefferson Clinton.
He's vulnerable at Douglas he's shown.
But most importantly for your purposes and -- that he is one of the coast.
Political insiders don't welcome.
Thank you so much Chris.
All right we'll see if that holds and Jim makers -- is here.
He is a Fox News contributor but given your bio is too short on my -- there mused about five more things on your -- here -- thing.
Reagan bush 41 my house.
Huckabee campaigned -- -- make up stuff yeah yeah yeah well he's right got to climb Everest as a child and they don't just can't get.
Bobby Fischer got nothing it OK Doug -- wanna start with you.
I want to play some sound from Mike Rogers who was unconscious and it was just moments.
Congressman -- -- the conclusion that the IRS came to is that they did have agents who were engaged in intimidation of political groups.
Is as dangerous a problem the government can hand out of and I don't care if you're conservative -- liberal.
Democrat or Republican there should send a chill up your spine.
Now -- that's not true is it because if you're a Democrat or liberal you probably think.
It's okay or many Democrats and liberals probably think it's okay that these groups these radical groups were being targeted because they think the Coke Brothers.
And whomever else are manipulating the tax code right.
I don't think so Chris really now I think we were all brought up as Americans.
-- and I assume that we live as one nation under god with a constitution.
Freedom of speech.
And that means freedom to say things that are -- popular unpleasant.
And frankly some things that may not making -- be true.
And the idea -- that the internal revenue would investigate.
The right wing group for a left wing group or political law opposition.
Is -- show willing I think for every right thinking American.
Okay this and high minded business right to know that's just the truth I think that's -- -- that are fed would agree you and me I'm sure.
Yeah but as -- -- -- Holmes junior said it's.
Free speech is not -- speech -- likenesses between eight and the IRS to -- this seems to have hated it Tea Party and source they wanted to investigate him.
It is appears to -- known in May of 2011 according to break -- news in July of 2011 and then there's the IRS officials -- -- -- -- right.
So -- it was pretty constructive notice there inside the agency enough to alert other right minded -- and you know ethical leaders to say don't do anymore and yet.
It was almost two years before that -- out of the public.
Right so Doug I would question the president has a plan.
That calls for in his second term for Americans due to a -- -- to give up some of the fears.
That they had about big government intrusive government the same sort of things that dominating 2010 election.
This is not going to help that case.
No this is not get a held.
That case I don't think that the implementation.
Of health care is gonna help that case.
I don't think -- 2014.
Are looking that much better than 2010 did so our thing between.
The IRS health care and of course spending Ghazi politically.
The president is on a precipice.
A precipice okay political precipice.
-- and there is and well I'm gonna wait for that I'm gonna I'm I'm going to -- to look around the corner let's stay with what's on the on the main street right now.
And I wrote about this today.
When you have this happening at the same kind of there's -- credibility -- up on the Ben Ghazi stuff when you see the administration's.
Backtracking on that does it for this happened at the same time the timing is bad.
Its second term hiatus Korean members -- that I have worked in and so dug in in in campaigns and White House before and after presidential election.
And before the presidential election when you're the president seeking his one and only second term.
There's an enormous discipline imposed which was Google good or bad because -- -- don't make mistakes don't be stupid that's a good candidates and the bat heads going as well covered up.
You know let let that just about after the election OK and so in this case.
It's pretty clear data not the -- -- not the IRS -- spell out before the 2012 election and of course so similarly.
They didn't want anything but -- coming up for the 2012 election in both cases they succeeded.
But now together disciplined he's -- and reality catches up with you and I've got this syndrome that so many as communism his second term president.
I didn't register the -- on this business what should the president what should the White House -- be doing now to mitigate and get and get.
-- -- two things come clean.
That is I think the president has to get to the bottom of what happened.
With Ben Ghazi if you notice last week.
He was conspicuous by his absence Tom -- -- in the national security advisor who was the point person.
On 9/11 in the White House has been -- we need to hear from them we need to know what in fact happened what the president knew when he knew it.
Why a rapid reaction force was in -- how the talking points were altered.
What was said to the secretary of state.
How did she react we need to know answers to all those questions we don't know.
Those and those answers we got a lot more questions actually and on the IRS this is an -- Enormous abuse of power that's been acknowledged was it just the Cincinnati office was it just a few.
Political activists in there.
With misguided auditing I don't know but I don't believe that it is a limited case in the way that we've just heard.
Does it on your Smart and you know stuff and your fair minded so that's why we like having you and I just about thank you -- And -- before let me know.
It's so here's a -- Linda -- who.
Who wisely follows me its external says I don't think many trusted him from the beginning but then guys in the IRS scandals have unraveled his administration.
-- the question still remains are persuaded people are there -- more people out there we're gonna change their opinion.
About this president in this presidency as a result of this.
We probably are some that were pretty polarized world and and so little.
I think you're already seen.
These didn't attempt by a partisan Democrats to turn the -- guys investigation.
Into a curious kind of indication Hillary Clinton that attention they're trying to say.
But this is just a plot to get Hillary in 2016 and their their portal -- about this investigation itself.
Focus on and you really want to see your favorite democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
And I that much at stake I think that that.
Probably does limit the number of persuaded that there are so they're clearly some -- -- kind of horrified by this and you know I think look I think what Doug said was really important moment ago this that this is another 2000 to 2014 ships have been at -- 2010.
That's just does some pretty big numbers moving.
-- are we so.
We saw 2006.
We know what that looked like this is starting to look like a little bit of 2010.
With the health -- stuff -- that little 2006 with the little scandal business going on.
So we'll watch and you'll you'll tell us where to look so we thank you -- elected again.
Is nothing you can Pinkerton and -- and neither is making time for his friends.
OK we're gonna take a quick break but another of your friends is waiting to talk to -- that's KT McFarland she is the host.
But Defcon three and he also has the game went -- with which to -- The conclusions of Washington -- We're not part of our investigation.
They came after the fact and our investigation.
Was security in Ben -- In the events leading up with respect to security -- -- -- So there -- really nothing I can -- from any particular position of expertise but the issue so people.
-- analyst former ambassador to the UN and this but Russia that -- bright the first post Soviet ambassador the united mayor chooses to Russia Thomas Pickering you talk to reporters.
After going on Meet the Press where he and Darrell ice the Republican includes a tour.
-- -- And this is power play and what ambassador Pickering was talking about there was don't blame me if Hillary Clinton wasn't interviewed -- because he with admiral Mike Mullen -- up.
The review of what happened and I think what you heard him -- reporters there was.
It wasn't my job to look into talking points it was my -- -- look at how this could have prevented it prevented the attack.
Could have been prevented and what to do to make sure it doesn't happen in the future so don't waste me on any gift cards.
Knows a thing or two about what happens when administrations.
Get tangled up on stuff like this how to deal with that -- the consequences are and all of those good things.
You know her of course -- Fox News contributor and host of Defcon three here a lot of foxnews.com but also a long time veteran of such Washington intrigues in various administrations -- welcome.
Banking in our entire I was just down in China for ten days with a group that Nixon administration alumni.
And let -- Talk about why can't.
So we had a blackout because of the great firewall of China Thailand the United States and I think did well again we have a cover up.
We haven't you know IRS abusing its privileges we have a secretary we have a prospect as secretary.
Saying well it's not important is a third rate burglary is just you know as we have to get on with our blood thanks so it.
Forty years but this is a cover -- Tom Pickering very well respected American diplomat he was asked -- -- this part of it.
In fact that more simpler -- -- he was not asked to look at and that is why we didn't rescue our people or at least attempt here while the attack was I'm going.
And what happened after the fact which has a cover -- Yeah and if -- if that's one of the things if you get to -- the investigation if you get to design the investigation.
And thereby limit the scope of the investigate -- or something that we heard.
About certainly reaching back Watergate but we also heard the 90911 commission and other things that critics say wait a minute you're defining the parameters here and so the real truth can't be gotten to in this case the parameters set for this review we're very.
Yeah as a result what -- they come up -- it sounded like a whitewash you know they've they've reported again this part of that that the administration acted as -- well that's the whole Ben -- story when in fact it's not.
And I look at the Ben Ghazi saying it's been a cover up it's been a cover from the beginning it was -- doping policy.
To have those additional security and Ben Ghazi that's what the Pickering report concluded.
But be prepared to other pieces of this puzzle and that's why did we not try to rescue.
Our people during very long attack and we didn't out there was going to be a two hour attack -- You know 200 days see -- and then finally why after the fact -- they taught himself and his pretzel like position.
To say that I had to do with terrorists it was all about a YouTube video.
Or it was all about other things but it wasn't to -- with Islamic extremists or the fact that we toppled a dictator in Libya.
And basically turn the country over to a lot of terrorists.
That is some good talent -- when you wouldn't put it that way -- it doesn't sound very good at all I guess.
So what what happens next what's the next that would what do you see the next thing to happen.
-- -- given my vast experience in the Nixon White House during life.
What now happens is the following is up to the house.
Will they have a select committee some kind of a special committee designed to do -- and Gaza in 19723.
-- and it.
Did the same thing -- -- senate select committee a look at Watergate.
Will the house do the same thing now with them Ganassi and if they do.
-- -- they -- asked to testify I think the guy who knows more about what did or didn't happen is David Petraeus.
Remember he used to be.
And you know nothing left to lose and there's nothing more powerful and piercing a cover up than an honest man who has nothing left to -- us.
Freedom's just another word OK Kate -- we thank you that's a bad that is a tantalizing prospect.
River rats yeah indeed indeed okay Internet will be back -- but -- -- tomorrow on the hunt with Jonathan Hunt is up next have a great day.
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