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This is pretty straight forward.
If in fact.
Iris personnel engaged in.
The kind of practices that have been reported -- And were intentionally targeted.
Conservative groups then that's outrageous.
And there's no place for.
As President Obama today reacting to a growing scandal gripping Washington DC in the nation.
The IRS now apologizing.
For targeting conservatives and other groups in what many consider political profiling.
All of the IRS denies the politics.
Were behind its decision to do this.
But is an apology.
And do -- you really need a special prosecutor now looking into this and how why it went.
Especially when we had the IRS commissioner testifying this way back in March 2012.
Can you give us assurances that the IRS is not targeting.
Particular groups based on political leanings first let me start by saying yes I can give you assurances.
As you know we pride ourselves on being a non.
Political nonpartisan organization and so what's been happening.
Has been the normal back and forth that happens with the IRS there's.
Absolutely no targeting this is that the kind of back and forth that happens when people apply offer up Bible -- -- for -- Our next guest played a pivotal role in finding answers and one of the biggest scandals that we've seen in recent years have played the Clinton administration.
He even asked President Clinton many of the toughest questions in front of a grand jury.
Robert Pittman is the former deputy Whitewater independent counsel Bob good to see you thanks for being here expo a special prosecutor is and what it does.
-- special prosecutor.
Megan first under the statute that then existed when independent counsel Ken Starr was appointed.
That was called a statutory independent counsel which was one that was requested by -- court the attorney general could then requested but typically.
That person would be appointed by a three judge panel and then assigned to the case with some jurisdictional outlines.
Which were made by the -- can attorney general.
You're looking over somebody from the outside who's gonna do -- a thorough independent.
And not somebody who answers to someone who's beholden.
That the very people being investigated or their boss -- so watch it let's start with the IRS it is that potentially appropriate here.
Oh absolutely I mean the but the whole point of any entities conducting an investigation.
Is to ensure that it is done in a credible manner.
And if your.
It read it investigating something that appears sort of on its face to be.
-- -- political the hand -- political.
Attorney general of the president probably shouldn't be involved in that.
It can -- conducted an internal review a -- -- appointed the inspector general.
And they leaked.
Part of this they got to try to get ahead of it by saying oh we apologize we apologize we knowing investigative groups that.
-- -- make America a better place to live that criticize other countries being done that that I'd run that how -- object to government spending debtor taxes.
We will we'll admit that we we investigate all of people.
The five of those those terrible groups but.
-- reports it's gonna come out.
Supports our view that the miss steps were not politically motivated they were limited.
To lower level workers how how can we trust them on that -- to even it it trust the idea.
Well I don't think we should.
First of that the president president Obama's.
-- scenario there where if people did this they targeted conservative groups with a specific intention of targeting them.
For their beliefs or their ideas he said is outrageous.
I would add to that that it's likely criminal.
You know post Nixon there was a specific statute and enacted that prohibited this very conduct.
How about and they Ghazi do we need a special prosecutor there.
Well -- -- here you have.
You have apparently you know the administration itself is has walked back from the -- statements that ambassador rice made on the five talk shows.
Now she was not under oath she was not making those statements to.
Is that really going to be criminal that certainly political.
It's possible perhaps could move into the political realm.
If some of the whistle blowers were tried to be were influenced to hold back their stories or others it.
Misled congress because there was some hearings on the -- -- matter and I think the truth.
Has yet to fully come out the process is -- -- working on Capitol Hill right now.
With some hearings and more of the true a truth rather is dripping out every day.
And so many of the un -- been guys that select committee might get more done.
Where we learned we do more fact gathering in on the IRS where we have a lot of facts and they don't look good we go we go more special prosecutor -- to be equipped our.
I beat you you can't do.
-- in both at the same time.
President Bush his administration appointed special counsel.
In the Valerie palm investigation for example -- an investigation.
Out of the destruction of the CIA interrogation tapes.
But the congress move forward with this with its investigation simultaneously threat that can do both at the same time.
That resulted in in a Scooter Libby going to going to jail.
All right thanks for being here.
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