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Should know what I was rooting for not guys now I can tell you that I mean no one was really rooting for him.
But nonetheless I don't think.
What all is said and done I think that our our jury system these people take their jobs very seriously again not.
I don't think they're influenced by that I mean maybe they are I don't know but.
I think when you look at this jury taking two weeks my disappointed yes and I satisfied that the jury gave us a fair shot yes.
Doctor -- guys -- a turning because now today the jury came back he's guilty of three counts of first degree murder dozens of other felony and misdemeanor charges.
Convicted of killing these babies.
After they were born and his abortion clinic -- botched abortions now ways to see what the sentencing will be we're back with the panel -- and you fall this.
-- from the beginning and you're column council.
-- woke people up a bit in the mainstream media your thoughts on this verdict and what it means.
Well I I think that.
He was found guilty as unique -- he -- of Ben and his attorney had basically been trying to make the case to the jury -- he was.
This is what he was paid to do he was paid to kill these babies and why would he be found guilty for this sudden people who -- in the courtroom today said that.
Got snow looks sort of befuddled and surprised that he's being around this this is considered murder.
So I think that you know it's certainly an important thing for us at least all be able to agree on the fact that you know -- -- baby's -- after comes out of a mother's body as -- heinous crime.
You know -- since 1973.
When -- the Supreme Court decided Roe vs.
Abortion choice has been a pitched political battle in America one side fighting with the other but by and large it's been a political battle.
Happens at conventions and so forth what we saw here in this verdict was this subject becoming real I think for most people.
And whatever wherever -- stance on either side of Roe vs.
Wade I think a lot of Americans are stepping back and sank I would like to -- a second.
Large look at what's going on with the issue of abortion what's going on these clinics winner things taking place I think the subject has been opened up a -- that a lot of people are going to be willing.
To set aside their politics and find out the reality of that subject.
Secrets the fact of the matter was no matter what your.
Ideology was on the issue of abortion whether you're pro choice pro life if you look at the facts of this case they were gruesome and there were.
Tough to them to read they were tough to listen to their.
And it did affect people.
No question about it you had a reporter was covering.
The trial very closely up in Pennsylvania who had been pro choice come until basically this is -- -- pro life.
I think Dana is right and act I think this will be sort of hinge point in our -- -- public discussion debate.
About abortion because you can't really go back you're gonna have I think.
People like Planned Parenthood try to fight what I think is this coming national discussion they put out a statement today -- tweet today.
In which they didn't even mention the babies -- even mention the basics that they were they were I'm glad that the the women.
And I think you're it's not going to be a debate comes easy you still have people who are not going to want what knowledge -- what happened and the fact that this is more common.
Than many people think it is the Associated Press wrote a story today in which they wrote of the fetuses rather than the babies they were babies the complaint says they were babies they should be called babies.
Eric Ferraro Planned Parenthood protest the jury has punished karma -- now offers appalling crimes this verdict will ensure that no.
Woman has victimized by -- us now ever again this case -- made clear.
That we must have and enforce laws that protecting access.
To safe and legal abortion and we must reject misguided laws that would limit.
Women's options and forced them to seek treatment from criminals like -- -- now here's.
I would love to see a conversation come on come out about this mostly because what I found in -- reporting on this -- how misinformed most people are even pro choice people even though I know who.
Are very actively pro choice were.
Arguing with me saying.
Now you can't just -- an abortion -- -- for weeks for any reason you that you can only do -- to twelve weeks is like now you can do it that that's that's wrong in Pennsylvania for any reason you can do that I just think people don't really understand what the laws are.
And what really -- people are allowed to do in this country quickly down.
-- -- does this change the debate it completely changes debate the question is will a group come forth that will allow this debate to occur.
I don't know I'm very skeptical that -- bureau of economic absolutely no question change the debate.
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