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Lawmakers now blasting the US attorney general Eric Holder over the latest scandal at the Department of Justice speaker John Boehner -- now saying quote the DOJ.
Better have a damn good explanation for secretly obtaining months of news organizations.
Former US attorney general Michael Casey joins us here on the set in New York are also a federal judge so you're certainly uniquely qualified to talk about wasn't.
-- you work eight.
What's your reaction do you think this is part of a larger narrative.
Within the Obama administration we -- well -- Who's talking to Monica Crowley about this just a moment ago.
Remember this story concerns al-Qaeda plot to blow -- an airliner on the -- in the United States.
Did this conflicted with the administration's narrative during the campaign about al-Qaeda being on the run bin Laden is dead.
It's all over.
And it is the same essentially as that is the issue underlying Ben -- Which is that this is a a narrative that is different from we wanna wanna put out.
And they narrative is GM's alive bin Laden's dead.
We've defeated al-Qaeda is precisely.
Precisely and what do you think that.
-- reprehensible conduct its its Brooke it's false.
It's reprehensible conduct.
The the underlying facts with regard to the AP story suggests that there was a somewhat broader gathering of data then then should ever been authorized and indeed the the the fact is what they were gathering his telephone records not the content of conversations are not talking about.
Bugging anybody running and that sort but twenty separate lines over two months involving.
Hundreds of journalists doesn't that seem beyond the normal.
Narrow scope that these things are supposed to cover it does there that -- Justice Department has a kind of kid gloves.
Approach when it comes to conducting investigations that relate to the president that's quite proper.
-- you don't want to discourage.
The gathering of news and other information about the functioning of government sometimes even stories that are embarrassing the -- But when it comes to national security I think the government is has every right to investigate however.
When they do they have to do with a very narrow focus and the sorts to look like it was a lot thrown -- -- you know Americans hold -- the First Amendment including the freedom of the press.
And this arguably does great damage to the associated press and other news organizations because now sources including confidential sources.
-- if they -- and continued OJ.
May be secretly obtaining these phone records of not just the eight feet and others but we're not going to be obtaining the records of that is the content of telephone calls right.
And what they can identify the sources through the phone records they can and the fact is that people do not have a right to -- confidential government information you work for the government is to keep that confidential.
Classified information that is of -- yet higher level of of confidentiality.
But if they were looking more broadly to discourage people from talking to reporters that is -- To sum up if I understand your argument here the narrative.
Is being used here which are essentially saying is.
The arms of government are being used for political purposes by the Obama White House and the Department of Justice yes.
Is that -- and abuse of power.
Yes it's of an abuse of power.
The -- when you when you have a situation we're people's lives are at risk as they weren't then Gaza.
And you make decisions about what that are rescue in Vermont hello -- what story to put out or not.
Based on the demands of a political campaign that's way too far.
Since you've drawn a connection with and -- and me with a rather straightforward question to you if and only -- teen never including with the -- -- -- You think this president.
And White House in his administration -- law.
Or lied to the American people.
Well there's no question in my mind that they deliberately misled the American people with regard to them guys and -- And two friends who dismiss that as a side -- I suggest it is whistling past the graveyard that is not a sideshow.
That is the main event in when he says there's no there there.
There's plenty as there's plenty there.
Former attorney general Michael what -- former federal judges well thanks for being -- -- Thanks for having.
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