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Are awaiting the year and daily news briefing from Jay Carney the white house press spokesmen.
There was scheduled to start about four minutes ago it is very often late and today it may be later than ever because they are juggling a number of scandals.
And he's going to have to respond to reporters' questions about the Ben Ghazi attacks.
The IRS -- snooping into.
Conservative organizations and and there contributors in their tax status and so forth.
Also this one that we're talking about with.
The Justice Department seizing phone records from the Associated Press especially those who work in Washington.
Looking for answers as to who leaked a story that ultimately was favorable to the administration but perhaps damaging.
To national security once again Judith Miller is our guest.
Along with Marvin Kalb Eric Holder we have just learned has recused himself from involvement.
In this store in this eight.
When they were first looking for answers as to who leaked this information.
I just want to get your thoughts on his recruit refusal here.
Well on the refusal itself fight can offer and the terrific insight I don't know let's wait and see what he says.
But on the overall issue I think let's not lose sight of the fact that both sides.
I mean the media and the government.
Have clear responsibilities.
In the coverage of this story and what is happening.
The media has a responsibility to report the news it's going to go -- -- -- to get the news it's going to talk to as many people as possible.
The Justice Department has to be.
Very careful when it goes after the media that it's not crossing and unacceptable line that only frustrates their own.
What is essential here is that this has happened before.
It happened to me during the Nixon times it happened to Judy in another administration.
And it is happening right now.
In all of these cases the government has gone too far.
Because it's up against the wall because it feels frightened by some external threat with me it was the Vietnam War.
With Judy was an international terrorism.
This goes on and on but the government cannot go where it shouldn't go and in this particular case it went too far.
The president has said that this is all political that this is you know his I guess political enemies.
Trying to make hay out of mistakes or problems within his administration perhaps it is no surprise.
The -- previously chairman of the Republican National Committee.
Just issued a call for the attorney general to resign he says quote because attorney general holder.
Has so egregiously violated the public trust the president should ask for his immediate resignation.
If President Obama does not to the message will be unmistakable the president of the United States believes his administration is above the constitution.
And does not respect the role of a free press.
I want to ask you about that Judy because we we just read that statement of the at the beginning of this segment from Jay Carney who again is about speak.
Jay Carney says all this was something that that the Justice Department did some -- so being the AP telephone records.
We have the White House had no knowledge -- Eric Holder and -- and President Obama are about as tight as you can get in Washington aren't they.
Exactly and I just behind Jay Carney is.
Sudden ignorance extremely convenient.
It seems to me when you have -- over a hundred.
Journalist records being scenes to.
Without notice you out of the country an explanation I just can't wait to see -- going to get out of this one.
But it does it make sense Marvin I mean does it pass the smell test that that the Justice Department would be -- seeing these records.
On this story that that was you know favorable to the White House frankly talked about how the White House was on top of of terrorism in northern Africa.
And the White House would know nothing about it.
Note that part of it doesn't doesn't sit very well would be either -- we have to be mindful of the fact.
That the government has sent a primary responsibility.
To defend this country in this particular case against the threat of global terrorism.
We have to remember that last year the New York Times was reporting a story about stocks net.
Which is a technological virus that they were trying to put into the Iranian nuclear program and that was a program develop.
-- -- stocks that was developed by the US and Israel.
At that time the New York Times found out about it and the government was trying to find out how the New York Times found out about it.
Right now the government is absorbed.
In the same kind of that issue the threat is the same its global terrorism but how you respond to it is different.
There is this similarity I would for.
That the media because we're all so out there and in front.
Is -- easiest one to get.
And so if you scapegoating if you need somebody to accuse of something wrong.
You go after the media but we've got to be careful it's this is not.
As yet proven that the government went after the -- The government went where it shouldn't go and the files happen to be with the -- they -- -- a very foolish move on its part.
Well and then there's this -- I mean during the in the Bush Administration President Bush and and Vice President Cheney were responsible for everything in on the conduct of the Iraq War and waterboarding and everything else this administration.
Doesn't seem to be responsible -- is isn't being held responsible.
For many of these erupting -- -- Exactly the president is outraged by the IRS scandal.
Even though it now appears that supervisors of the people who targeting conservatives were aware that that was being down -- He says he dismisses -- got me as a sideshow in politics.
Even though his own White House spokesman went out and misled the American people we don't know yet whether or not that was conscious or inadvertent that's one of the many questions that has to be determined now we have.
The government coming to the Associated Press.
Rather than doing its own investigation.
The -- requires the government to exhaust all other means before it goes to the reporters.
And news organizations and demands these kinds of records there's no indication as yet that the government has quote.
Exhausted all of the it -- alternatives so I go back John.
To this notion.
I'm kind of just up power that is being systematically abused by the government without the White House having any indication it's going on.
I'm sorry I agree with -- it does not pass the smell test.
Judy we know you're up late working on your piece about all of this and we appreciate you coming -- to share your thoughts with us lives here -- The -- now are on the East Coast Judy Judy Miller -- I held my pleasure to both Fox News contributors thank you both and we are continuing to await that briefing.
From Jay Carney and a man whose job I definitely wouldn't -- -- have today thanks for the.
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