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Quarter past the hour -- continuing coverage of the White House response to reports that the IRS targeted conservative groups for further review.
Before the election in 2012 President Obama says he learned about the accusations on Friday from the same news reports that everybody else saw.
With us now is John -- the assistant managing editor -- executive business editor for the Wall Street Journal newspaper.
Which is owned by the parent company of this network and he is a Fox News analyst or with a Fox News analyst.
-- -- -- -- He learned on Friday when we did.
This could be the issue right the timeline of who knew what to win it's always is so it is it the people on Capitol Hill were complaining about -- the IRS because they were getting complaints and their constituents saying we're getting kind of the run around here we're getting.
Scrutinize for -- application for tax free status.
So they set off concern to the IRS in the I -- eventually got back to them.
But did not indicate early enough that they knew there was special scrutiny being applied to these groups.
-- to acting heads are two heads of the IRS one appointed by every Republican president the other by a Democrat.
Both apparently knew some time ago that there was additional scrutiny so.
All years ago all this is good at all this is gonna eventually come out ends I think -- -- already the political response this is kind of a scorched earth.
It it it seemed today that what they're doing and the admissions have been made.
The the -- has admitted this yet the White House won't comment on it -- it's waiting to find out if it's true.
It would be a weird thing to admit -- not true yeah -- -- Obama has said look at this has been going on it's outrageous is kind of state the ground politically that there's not going to be -- defense of this are you seeing on.
The Republican and the democratic side that sort of response.
He also -- the holder talking about a possible investigation correlate -- you're going to -- by the Department of Justice so.
You know these are all very significant steps meant to kind of caught -- what is a sort of a leading political problem right now and they don't want this to -- drag on the way -- -- is dragged on.
Since there's a criminal investigation Arthur from the legal side of things.
What could this produce.
Well -- you know you right now Stephen Miller is out there talking about.
Well this happened because of accidental why he's coming over all kinds of excuses now all of a sudden you know and Olivia did it -- right.
Now you have to shut up basically because the attorney general is clear he's had within the IRS code or criminal -- A potential criminal violations and then within title eighteen which is the criminal code of the federal government that may be violations are no.
The bullseye is now of the IRS by the FBI and the attorney general's office in my opinion shepherd.
This is another example where it you probably better off having a special prosecutor.
Having someone who's got nothing to do with politics an attorney in private practice bring him in doesn't have a horse in the race and let them -- -- him.
That's that you know who this is really good news for us -- well it's really good news for 501 C force.
For anybody who wants to run our government for -- as they have since they changed the laws.
Now anybody -- billions of dollars goes Scot free in a run in the government.
No but you know there there's -- that how it works out there there's also a you know a problem where.
Any number of groups are concerned about government oversight or are perhaps paranoid about being investigated by the government and say the IRS is kind of is is prosecuting me ends discriminating against me.
This sort of -- money IRS.
Really opens the door to that.
Discussion because it kind of makes concrete and then very concerns that a lot of organizations have that this if they cross the line some power there politically.
Controversy -- that they're getting it get investigated by the government source like.
It's a it's a could have major problem for the iris as what floors the Wall Street Journal -- sex OK what if the department.
Had gotten all the phone records for the main number at the WSJ -- on the sixth floor wonder how they feel about that over there right well that's hold another your problem here with the Associated Press.
Getting its it's records.
Taken by the department justice.
-- -- -- -- these are all kind of steps by the government that are all sort of playing into a very large debate all over what should the government -- be.
The end pursuing criminal cases in the case of what the department justices have with the AP.
And bridging privacy or bridging.
First Amendment of the constitution we already knew there watching this from every street corner with a camera that they've installed without our permission.
We already knew that they're flying drones around up there we go over the speed limit villages she decided off the highway.
Now we know they're also listening -- phone calls and reading our emails and I feel like I should put an extra bit my -- bishop because they need a nice place to sleep while watching over -- -- -- -- two beds -- are -- you are also happy though that some of that surveillance camera footage came back showing two bombers in Boston area and very quickly being able to identify them and I think the public responded the same way I do but some of those cameras were private cameras from private businesses with private security they -- those cameras of that information was given to the I'm just not entirely sure that the government supposed to have a bit in my bedroom but I'm preparing -- -- -- as I can see where this president is taking -- Real quick -- Jay Carney said it was deep the constitutional professor who's now the president of the United States is trying to strike a balance.
Between protecting the country not trampling on constitutional rights -- that being said the deputy attorney general now in charge of the investigation the AP.
Has officially refused to return.
Media all the subpoenas back to the Associated Press as they have -- his dog ate them.
Dogs as it happens.
You have a child.
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