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In hot water tonight so is secretary of state -- secretary of health rather and human services Kathleen -- -- She is soliciting a multi million dollar donations to supporter paper Obama care.
But the senate health committee's top Republican saying.
That may be illegal -- Lamar Alexander is comparing sectors have really use is fund raising it to the Iran Contra scandal.
Senator Alexander joins us now that's -- Iran Contra scandal.
Why do you say that.
Well because go back 25 years Oliver North Fork in the Reagan administration was accused.
Of raising private funds and using it in a private organization.
To conduct a war.
In Nicaragua that congress.
Had refused to appropriate and what's secretariat.
-- this appears to be doing.
To me seems to be the same sort of thing.
Congress is said we refused to give you more money -- Obama -- and she's saying well then if you won't do it I'll go outside.
And I won't.
Raise private money use a private organization and do it anyway.
And what the democratic select committee that investigated Oliver North 25 years ago said was the constitution doesn't allow that.
And the anti deficiency -- says it's illegal.
Well got to say lived in Iran -- Contra involved.
Deaths in a little bit different than than here well I did that it's different but that this involves almost every American -- -- got.
Doubles is saying women are different I had and senior point and see if I am curious -- What is her response of the administration's response they -- -- -- you basically trying to end run congress right is that essentially unless -- running congress.
The founders said we don't -- kings who will set up -- congress will say congress only you can appropriate money.
And so -- have if she says well I don't care about that I'll I'll I'll do it outside the congress anyway.
The problem with -- as the constitution doesn't allow and there's a law against.
I hit one of the things that I was curious -- who -- she's raising money from of these people who have.
Current health -- wanna do business with the government wanted to be mean it I want about conflicts of -- -- thinking that -- if -- -- -- week.
Hostile private organization for cash if if they're gonna get more business and health care.
Is there any suggestion that.
It -- a visit just the wrong people as well up to look for little more.
More than a suggestion in New York Times on Monday in the Washington Post the day before.
Said that she's raising money.
Sometimes in the million dollar category.
From health insurance people she regulate so.
You're raising money from people you regulate that's one problem is -- he -- -- -- that's a big problem that's a complex that's that's that's a conflict of interest and that's what's happening.
And it may not seem like is bigger problem to make an end run on congress but it's a pattern that we've been saying it's just like.
Just like the president making recess appointments when the senate is in recess and -- of the of the founders didn't wanna king.
They've they've they -- congress a bill -- rights to stop.
The king and these end runs around congress -- specific silly.
Send the stuff I'm Nat Nat and and I I don't I don't think this election and run congress and I didn't I just didn't mean netted just said -- -- of them.
Video is is with the rebels -- little different I mean.
But I but I got your right greatest that the nation -- and running congress I'm totally with you on that one assist the distinction between the two examples.
Tell -- has the administration responded to you as as sector of civilians -- you.
Well they should respond to the press has said they found.
A little statute that says -- search contract she could encourage -- search.
It's pretty far fetched to say that justifies raising money.
Probably from people you regulate to make this syndrome of congress and and then that can override the constitution.
Which says it only the congress may appropriate for a so it was so -- -- -- what's gonna happen.
Well what's gonna happen is several of us are -- massive Government Accountability Office to look into this -- last inspector general looking to us the house represented says -- capacity that.
Have an investigation what I hope she doesn't stop.
Shot -- that I think people have very short memories all this is going on right now -- -- we were just talking so much but this sounds like.
The way Iran Contra started.
-- does he sounds like the way Watergate started the excessive.
Looking for leaks among up to a hundred AP employers sounds like the way the White House plumbers started the iris sounds like.
The enemies list back in the Nixon administration all these are very unpleasant that goes in in an administration ought not to want.
That to happen and and we should get to the battle every single one of the senate nice to see Sarah thank you --