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-- the impact segment tonight chaos growing in Washington Ben Ghazi the IRS scrutinizing conservative groups and now attorney general holder getting beat -- sheets.
Of journalists only -- yet on his assistant got up but he -- this.
All adds up -- political confusion to say the least you're -- try to sort it all out senator Marco Rubio Florida.
-- the IRS first senator do you believe President Obama and anything directly to do with yes.
Well I don't know of the president did bill would I have evidence of that I can tell you that what's.
-- come clearly apparent as a culture throughout the federal government not just the IRS for the Department of Justice the State Department.
we've seen that now there's three different incidents that basically use the government as an instrument of a political activity to target your political opponents to make life difficult for people that are saying things that you don't like.
To make life difficult for whistle blowers that are saying things about the State Department that you don't like.
And I believe that all that comes from the top of any organization.
So I think that's are the questions are increasingly leading and it's embarrassing for the country.
These are things you typically see in the Third World from on establish republics and other places you don't see that here and I think that's what's really troubling about the recent it is.
Winner of two things is one of two things either -- did come from the highest.
Order of the IRS.
And maybe somebody else told to do it or it was just zealots within the organization is citing the Tea Party art that -- one or the other.
But right now.
We don't know.
We just -- so we gotta be careful about that but let me just say this I don't think that that kind of environment can flourish.
Unless there's created a space or an environment where it's encouraged so this is what we do know we do know that donors to Mitt Romney and -- Republican causes last year.
Where where where were targeted by Obama's campaign apparatus and a gentleman and Idaho that was targeted.
And and his operations you know others that have complained about it so it's a general culture of the willingness to use the instruments of government.
To put church -- would you consider to be your political opponents and a bad position and you've seen that now on issue after issue you have a whistle -- last week saying that and Ben Ghazi.
That they felt threatened for their job ahead -- you have the eight AP now being targeted in a widespread.
Effort to find information out about that pilot and I had -- exciting and -- saying all right now.
Earlier today as you probably know.
Attorney general holder.
Gave a press conference and then Carney the White House spokesperson also took questions about the AP here's the bottom line on the eight -- and I wanna get your reaction to it.
Holder says that he recused himself.
Because he himself might have been under investigation.
In these leaks there were leaks about a CIA operation we believe in yeah.
-- made its way into the Associated Press the FBI trying to find out who the -- Kirk it's all right now.
Possibly could be the attorney general United States salt holders steps back and digital -- -- I'm not gonna conduct investigations that might even look at me.
So all right that's what he -- -- so very didn't get up and goes on annoying -- I recuse myself it was my deputy.
Who -- the eight.
It doesn't because your deputies tell your deputy on everything else and so certainly that person that you need to put someone independent they're not among the works directly underneath you.
But here's the second problem today this is just targeted at the leaks.
That's -- that's a valid law enforcement endeavor the problem is this is such widespread if you look at what the request was and how widespread it was.
What it may certainly feels like and you see people on the press saying that by the way the curiosity and all this is how the press wanted to ignore Ben Ghazi.
They want to ignore all this other stuff but when it but when it touches them now this thing is the next Watergate but -- back to point.
About the -- The request was so widespread it wasn't targeted it was widespread -- like a fishing expert -- they wanted and find out if anybody in the Associated Press is talking to anybody.
With access to classified information that that with the FBI wanted to find out but the message is clear and that is that we don't like what you're saying -- what you're doing we're gonna use the apparatus of government to intimidate you -- you.
Very comfortable that's the story the IRS that's the story of the Justice Department -- the eight I didn't really you know these aren't -- Gaza.
On the AP I'm not so sure I buy into that on the iris I do.
I know about Ben -- with the state to finally get ignored when it out there all right no -- -- That's the big story right now and and and -- this is this is -- The president Carney.
The attorney general all they say is we're investigating.
We want to know the truth we want to find out what happened and then they never do.
That's the oldest rooms in the world so we're still.
Undefined about who awarded rights to go out.
And mislead the world who screwed up security in Libya who exactly.
Screwed it up.
Who said stand down to the military don't send guys to -- -- from Tripoli who did it.
Right then and will not tell us senator so here's my final question to you can you and your colleagues in the senate make.
Well from number -- -- sort trying to get to the bottom of and all of us and never the answer is you can put people under oath.
And if they're willing to lie under -- they're gonna commit perjury giving you guys haven't been house driving this train while we did we did -- hearing it says Secretary Clinton came -- -- answer questions and obviously -- more information comes out.
What she said at that hearing will have to be compared with what the facts are that are being on.
-- covered and I hope that they match up and and that they don't obviously they'll be consequences for that but but look here's the bottom line they're two separate issues to look at and Ben -- One is where the talking points -- -- manipulated for political purposes and number two.
Should we even have been there to begin with and then -- after steady stream of intelligence reporting that told the State Department it is a very dangerous environment have been there they should have closed that down and they were gonna keep -- -- open they -- had adequate security and an adequate plan to rescue those people they did not.
You do you commented we are getting answers to any of these stories because right now I have that Stonewall.
Damn intense in watching what we gotta we gotta keep about it that's our job.
All right senator in my job -- so -- -- I cries about ago where.
All right very --
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