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Freedom of the press on national security cabinet to co exist.
Let's Oscar uniquely qualified person folks he's contributed Judy Miller that question chemical exist.
-- I have to co exist in a democracy.
And we've always tried to maintain this balance between on one hand preserving our national security and on the there.
Ensuring that we have a free and independent press and the administration.
Which no one seems to have noticed until -- -- This administration is more passionate about controlling its message and secrecy that any administration that I can remember covering.
-- but now -- that the justification.
As -- -- in the bush White House as it is now with within administration which judge you say it is more even more concerned.
With the with secrecy at the justification is always national security.
And there is a justification.
That one about the eight.
Concerns you the most in terms of going outside of that justification.
Well there are longstanding.
Regulations and sets of procedures.
For how to go about getting reporter's telephone records.
Since the seventies these have been in place they've always worked.
My records were gone after all so after I went to jail.
And in fact I lost the fight to protect my records the records were turned over but first the government came to me.
And to the New York Times for him I was -- working and said we need these records we had a chance to contest this.
We lost that.
Happy ending from a journalistic standpoint Jonathan.
The source was never discovered.
And no charges were ever filed I think that's what's going to happen in this instance but here we have the most extraordinary.
Over a hundred reporters affected by this -- -- -- cell phones home phones you know.
-- -- -- This honest story with which the Associated Press actually worked with the administration he.
They worked with the White House the White House and please don't.
Print the story and they didn't.
They -- held it for certain certain amount of time until that -- danger to national security had passed so what are we talking about here.
I'm not entirely sure all of that we in the media are any more popular than politicians -- all all lawyers.
Why should anybody watching this program and any American citizen be concerned about what is happening.
The -- -- about -- Because you know whether or not it's it's an issue of your taxes the information you give over to.
Tax agencies and you expect that nothing's gonna happen that information whether or not.
You expect some privacy in your personal life with respect your own telephone calls you ought to be concerned when the government feels that it can just run roughshod.
Willy Nilly all over reporters.
That to find the source of the week if we -- danger ordinary citizens are in danger of having their privacy in it.
Just completely shattered but here's the problem.
This was done to have a chilling effect.
On those who might want to tell reporters something and that is if you see.
Malfeasance in Europe government agents hole.
Or in your local police department and you want to talk to a reporter about it so that what you know can become public -- can be corrected.
You're gonna think twice three times four times about doing that if you think that the wrath of the federal government is gonna come down upon.
So this is it this is all about it.
Everybody's freedom in the end it's -- this is not about the freedom all certain journalists to have secret -- Absolutely look this amendment the First Amendment to the constitution by the way it was first for a reason -- because Thomas Jefferson -- If he had to choose between -- -- having -- government and having an independent press he would choose the latter he wouldn't -- of the free press.
It is indispensable.
You cannot have a democracy it's really for a long people who are really free without having an independent.
And skeptical press that looks into the actions of government doesn't doesn't work.
All right Judy Miller folks he's contributed thank you so much -- so I'm Judy is one of those of calls that you can see every Saturday 230 and 11:30 PM.
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Excuse me I -- posted by John stopped Judy great to see you thank you -- nothing Danica.
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