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We are watching the White House right now where Press Secretary Jay Carney could face some tough new questions on the Ben Ghazi investigation.
The White House has grown increasingly defensive in recent days after reports detailing.
How the blame for the terror attack was changed in the days after four Americans were murdered last September we -- whistle blowers testified Capitol Hill we have the talking points.
When what that was done to them revealed publicly and how involved the State Department was despite earlier denials.
Joining me now Doug Schoen a former pollster for President Clinton and a Fox News contributor and pack it down a Fox News contributor.
Who served as a poster for former president Jimmy Carter and the president came out this week in Jay Carney came out this week and said.
This is what you need to know about that -- it's been totally politicized.
By the other side.
There is there is this is a side show about the talking points.
And they seem to -- did not understand why we are also focused on talking points.
That they originally told us they never touched except for one word changing consulate to diplomatic post and now we know for a fact according to their view reports.
Were heavily modified.
With State Department input and now we're told White House input as well your take -- -- -- well let me start by saying first smaller but when I heard the president and Jay Carney.
Saying what they're saying about -- all I can think oh boy is third rate burglary the description of the Nixon White House used to describe Watergate.
Look the issue here is simple and it's not -- not simple but I'm able of them and it's not the mole hill it's a -- -- matters -- real question is.
The talking points in their -- no mention in the any of the versions of the talking points about this video.
That video was imposed in -- as a last minute substitution for a narrative.
Who did it how did it come to be and that we don't know and that's the issue that really matters because that was a canard that the spread by the president.
Joseph Biden and Hillary Clinton and everyone else in the second one is to that effect is.
What has not been answered a bopping Ghazi is what was the president doing that night.
We all know what he was doing.
At -- -- -- -- right -- we saw the pictures Monaro repeat yesterday's save us swears it's where where's the pictures have been -- you where's the pictures of them.
What he was doing watch Americans were dying.
Those -- the central questions that need to be answered in the presidency saying it's all politics and Jay Carney.
Is it is it is protest -- too much my -- lady Macbeth.
You know -- the did Hillary Clinton said when she testified that for congress what difference does it make whether as a protestor -- -- malicious outside the console what difference does it make.
And we have the -- president saying this solace sideshow this business about -- talking points let me posit to you something.
The talking points which we now know redacted.
Took out among other things the CIA's.
Warning it's it's notation.
Of the fact that it had warned state repeatedly.
About a deteriorating situation there when it came to security.
And now we know the State Department officials had also warned leadership about the deteriorating six situation there.
The question is whether that was all removed from those talking points because it was a CY EA.
By the State Department and they decided to handicap the rest of us with that respect information to protect themselves but -- not relevant.
Well -- of course it's relevant but I think it's also something bigger.
And -- I've talked about it and I think we believe.
That bottom line this was a political judgment.
By -- White House in an election campaign that had as their central narrative.
That -- succeeded in dismantling.
And in getting Osama bin Laden and the fact that there was a terrorist attack within seven or eight weeks of the election.
On the anniversary of 9/11.
Was something that they politically could not stomach countenance a deal with so BC YA that you spoke up happened at all levels the State Department.
The White House and bottom line we need to re interview people we need to answer the questions pat raised we need to get to the bottom -- and -- and.
You know it just to -- -- viewers back they said that the smoking gun memo to the State Department went out August.
Of of 2012 that that have the memo went out.
-- State Department cable warning the office of Secretary Clinton the consulate could not withstand a coordinated assault.
Could not and that Islamist militias ten of nominate your training camps were within Ben Ghazi.
That's been called -- smoking gun memo Hillary Clinton was asked about it when she testified before congress whether she knew about that cable here's what she said.
Were you aware of this cables the state this August 16 cable.
Congressman that cable did not come to my attention I have.
Made it to a very clear that the security cables.
On did not come to my attention.
So pat my question EU is.
It does matter does it not.
Whether we were attacked by terrorists.
By al-Qaeda linked terrorists.
And whether of the CI EA.
The State Department and the White House had reason to believe that when they saw the attack on polled on 9/11.
Of course of course it matters it matters for small for the truth it matters because of the reality in the in misleading the American people.
Look we know they're good dogs -- we've discussed about the narrative they needed to protect the politics of this.
What were they doing they didn't think -- what happens on September 11 on the 9/11 you don't think that's that has anything to do with terrorism.
You don't you but did -- White House was so invested.
In their foreign policy and in -- -- their claim that don't al-Qaeda was beaten and none of this matters of war on the right track.
That they just.
I mean have you gotten a great addition I was ally can you guys are rightly so there isn't it I got it right a -- -- -- faster.
Fox News alert and now the attorney general Eric Holder is offering his opening statement we received a copy in advance he's gonna talk about right here the accomplishments of the DOJ recently the criminal investigations.
That the DOJ is working and then they're gonna get to the Q&A and that is when we are going to join.
On the news of the day he is just updating them in other words the judiciary committee -- sort of where the DOJ is a life.
And that's done routinely so when they get to sort of acuity and talk about the issues of the day we'll jump back and he was just sworn in by the way so he is under oath.
Joining me again Doug Schoen impacted -- had a luckily finishing top.
My thought was Susan -- as Doug said look this was I didn't need to preserve a political narrative because they were warned about the elections exactly the same thing.
That the Nixon people were doing with Watergate.
And -- and I'm not saying it was a crime there but it was it was highly wrong and immoral and eventually it does constitute I believe a cover up.
Doug what do you make of the attempt now to say it's over and anybody who pushes further on this is just about politicizing the matter because we still don't know.
Although we -- we know Vicki knew in -- new in the State Department spokesman person at the time was the one saying change the talking points more.
-- this still does not satisfy my building leadership.
Who what building leadership -- who exactly who was just who want pulling the strings at the State Department and the White House.
Those are all very good questions -- and and I think the direct answer to your question is.
It isn't over we need answers to those questions and at this point.
My feeling is.
Any right thinking person Democrat Republican or -- appended.
Should want everybody who was interviewed to be re interviewed so we get answers to the questions pat was raising.
Who authored the talking points who came up with the narrative about the video what was the president doing where was -- what was he hearing and why was he doing what it was doing.
We need answers and did say it's all -- Carney said it's old loser president said it's a sideshow.
I think is just plain wrong and unfair to the American people.
We have a lot of viewers email in response that sideshow comment saying.
Ask ask the families of the victims -- this is a sideshow yes they don't think some.
Yes it sure isn't.
-- -- -- Yes and I was gonna say that -- that is in part the issue here they've they've they've perpetrated this -- families you know we need to know.
And the problem here is that they've leaned on everything that you DRB report which was as the authors now wanna come and -- -- Wasn't about -- talking points it was only about the security issues they didn't interview everyone and they've referred to what the way the White House some -- mr.
-- about the dean report for God's sakes.
Well let me just jump on them any amendment had -- anything -- -- epidemic is John -- was on the other -- saying who cares about the -- report obviously it wasn't complete.
They didn't talk to Hillary Clinton so who cares with DRV guys they only know what the State Department people pulled up.
Who wasn't ever that we want to hear Hillary Clinton when this time be nice if the people on Capitol Hill would ask her some actual questions instead of just giving -- soliloquy.
You know I think a fair minded person wants to hear from everybody.
Report admiral Mullen to hear from ambassador Pickering and -- here from Secretary Clinton hopefully the national security advisor.
Tom dialogue would want to weigh in -- he was the point man.
On 9/11 when this tragedy was going down and I think we want to hear from the whole range of officials that were involved and understand what in fact really happened.
What about -- dollars -- -- I know you look at these look at belong really known Tom O'Donnell is or why we need care about John Donnelly what connection he may have had a big -- but you wrote a piece.
That was really tough on him you're not a big fan of -- talent.
While I know -- I mean he has it he has a first political operative always been imported national security advisor.
And he is a nation as a whole history of political politicizing everything.
He has not had the statue of street new version skier Henry Kissinger -- some of the people we've had -- Condoleezza Rice cement job.
And he is -- -- invisible man in all of this again national security and I don't see.
The national who do you think was coordinating all of this -- -- any of what he does he leak selectively.
People leave a lot of the stories he at the bottom of all of this I guarantee you on the talking points.
And all -- what happened that night is Tom dominant.
And this in limbo and not only that we need you need to be interviewed under -- we need to select committee until we have a full investigation.
Because the White House is any full -- which is not to be truthful with the American people let's face it they wanna say it's politics the president was just I thought.
And we need to know the truth those families need to know the truth it wasn't a video of the killed there there there -- children and their family members.
Same group of people with all -- big chain it was one of moral and we were all misled that they change one word they -- consulates and diplomatic post and now we see that her heavily edited.
Talking points that were edited at the request.
Of the State Department and with input from the White House that is the reporting and yet they refused.
To release -- release -- think if you if -- if he had nothing to hide release all the email back and forth.
-- all the versions of the talking points and release the presidential daily briefs.
Which show us what the president says he was he was receiving real time -- -- right he claims it mirrors what Susan Rice said so let's see them are guys I got around me so much.
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