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-- I'm -- comes -- a look at Julian Bond served eleven years as chair of the NAACP.
Helped found the Southern Poverty Law Center.
With the organization's president -- back -- 7179.
Served as the Georgia house and in the Georgia house and a six terms in the Georgia senate.
-- we don't ever read earlier credits.
-- thank you think thanks so much of another program obviously NAACP in the news in light of the IRS scandal that you haven't see the president speak this evening.
-- I didn't I was sitting here my computer unfortunately.
I really did say that the acting commissioner in the IRS has resigned and will be full accountability.
Are you happy with the way this is going and how the administration's handling it.
Well I I think they were a couple of heavy handed I think there were reasons target the people they did targets.
Citizens United had just been decided meeting that money can just flow of the politics like it ever has before.
Bunch of groups who were clearly political.
And clearly intended I think if you have any suspicions at all to use the money in the wrong way we're applying for tax exemption it was right for the IRS to pay special attention to them.
They dated and heavy handed way they explained in the heavy handed way but I think they were doing the right thing.
-- you think there's nothing no scandal nothing was done wrong here.
No not all of the SI RS has behaved badly in the past with the NAACP in fact they threatened us our tax exemption.
Simply because in their words I had criticize President Bush.
We know there's nothing wrong with criticizing president the United States people do it all the time and the fact that I could.
Could it could be tax exemption of the NAACP.
In in danger because I criticize the president just ridiculous.
Let's happily wrong that they would do that and that they were very clear that that's where they were doing it right.
I wrote a letter to me -- -- they said you criticized the president of the United States that's why we're doing this.
Then they went did you was there any accountability and when that happened to you was there any.
Was there any way that they were able to make that good for you.
No no well yes and no my board of directors stood up behind me -- -- TP community stood up behind me is ahead.
Defended my right to say what I wanted to say about president of the United States.
But it cost us a great deal cost -- a lot of money we had -- expensive lawyers we had to defend ourselves it went on for two years.
And it just took us a little all of our step which is what what they intended.
Do and he couldn't sue the government back to reclaim some of that money at all I would treat.
Now you've said that the tea party for example is like the Taliban wing of American politics that's pretty harsh language.
Think about it -- hostile to women's rights -- -- the Taliban.
There in the and ruptured by a -- sort of Stalinist religion.
I'm gonna get intro real trouble about -- You know -- and wish they Obey your religious dogma that ordinary Christians don't know bay.
In many ways there -- you very much like the Taliban.
So you really would liken them to the Taliban in terms and I mean we're not finding a physical war -- them they haven't taken up arms against the United States senate.
Decision to really compare them with -- -- would.
You'd have to go a little further would you.
Well I've gone pretty far already.
The -- religion what do you mean by that well you know -- guilty to a to an interpretation of religion that I think most Christians do not hold.
So you don't think these are true Christians if -- members of the he is their cafeteria Christian they pick one from.
Parliament elevate one from column B one -- city.
Why is that there was with a why would you equate being in the Tea Party to not to being only a cafeteria Christians you know -- to be a good Christian to be part of that group.
I don't know it's tough for me to say I'm not a good Christian myself but I think I know the -- cafeteria Christians and -- regular Christians and regular Christian.
Would behave the way most of these people or many of these people -- remember this is not a condemnation of the entirety of the Tea Party movement I'm sure there's some good hearted people let it.
Just wrongly directed.
There are some people I think who are wrongly directed -- not good -- So if the IRS says look we got all these 501 C groups some registry now we've got it.
And my -- humor or Tea Party groups so and if we're gonna look for Tea Party patriots September 12.
You -- -- gets totally within bounds and even from the the from an optics standpoint.
Politically it certainly does look good -- I don't yeah.
Very bad politically but it looks OK in every other way and sometimes you have to do the every other way even at the risk of being in danger politically and I think that's.
Probably is the decision they made.
But they should have been more open about -- that at least they should have told their own leadership about it and their leadership should have acknowledged that they had been told about it.
Do you think the president has political problems here and his is his second term in jeopardy because of this.
Or any of the other issues swirling around and went out.
His second term has been in jeopardy -- his first term began.
That was under Republican party's -- gonna say no to everything he does peace as the sun comes up -- the morning we're gonna say -- If the that he says the sun is shining we're gonna say -- So -- been in jeopardy ever since figured.
The way of getting immigration done of doing further on partial -- Because we're not talking about immigration -- not talking about a gun control.
We're talking about these issues and and some of these issues don't deserve the talking they're getting.
I don't think he probably agree -- -- -- the Republican Party has overshot overstated its case so much and gone after him for everything for being a secret Muslim to not being born here.
To playing too much golf to going on vacation -- -- something because -- -- really might deserve some scrutiny they lose their credibility.
Oh absolutely absolutely but they don't they never learned to just keep that it.
So what happens down the road does this hurt the party does it hurt Democrats.
We do we go from -- had -- we get beyond this.
Well I don't know you know Americans I think are a forgiving people and we forgive often too soon people who try to address.
And parties -- can be prepared for given to but I think you have to pay for your mistakes like this.
So it's -- But at the -- are.
-- that the Republican Party is made.
And they're gonna have to -- -- developed -- -- -- I -- so.
Do you think this damages are Republicans a long term more than damages are at the.
But do you know only a small portion.
Excuse the local.
A small portion of the provisions.
-- -- -- -- -- So they're disappearing party there at the demographics of -- -- -- -- period.
At a Bible one of them I'd be serious about changing the way I act the way I behaved the way I talk and what I'm for -- -- again.
And maybe do some outreach to.
Blacks to Hispanics to immigrants to.
-- -- you don't they are attacking the health care act the President Obama helped pass from Colin depressed.
And that -- had about half the beneficiaries are women and racial minorities but they're in trouble with women and racial minorities -- why should they.
Turn against health care program that benefits racial minorities and women.
There are now trying to overturn it for the 37 time.
In this unveiled this time and if they try 37 times more they're clearly get the -- -- certainly appreciate your time tonight thank you very much for take care that cult like some affair Thelma thank you.
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