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We're joined by Simon Rosenberg he's the president and founder of -- and left leaning think tank.
Also former Clinton Campaign advisor and -- -- -- who's a fellow at the American enterprise institute and former speechwriter for president George W.
Your reaction to that report that we just went through Marc.
Well it's it's shocking and the fact is look we've been hearing.
For months now that Susan Rice just went out and read the intelligence assessment.
The objective intelligence is of those provide a terrible first of all we know.
That she had this intelligence assessment did not include a mention of an Internet video she inserted that herself.
We know that there was a huge fight within the administration or what should be said in -- in those talking points and it was the State Department that was actively water debt watering down this indeed these talking points it was Torre knew and who went out and and ask for the rare removal of the reference.
Two -- are only -- Sharia and it was Torre knew and who asked for the removal of the row of the reference of the fact that they had been warned.
Repeatedly about the threats and Ben -- because she did want members of congress.
-- beat them up and I find it incredible.
That that should they they were saying her actually -- I'll give you -- her reason for it was.
Because because why do we want the hill to be fingering -- -- all Sharia.
When we are doing that ourselves until we have the investigation results so they were willing not willing to blame al-Qaeda.
Who they knew wouldn't believe was behind the attack until there was a completed investigation.
But they were willing to blame an Internet video.
And a and a demonstration that never happened without any evidence whatsoever.
You what what are the difference between these two things.
Al-Qaeda attack is embarrassing for the president and for the administration -- he just completed a convention where he said that al-Qaeda was on the run but an Internet video is is is not embarrassing for them.
So this was clearly -- CYA operation and that's what we're seeing out of this out of these emails.
Simon if she had just come out and said what -- -- memo said.
That we believe he's in attacks were spontaneously inspired by the protest -- US embassy in Cairo which were -- part linked up based on a video.
But I want to contextualize that for you.
Because the CIA has told us they'd warned us.
That -- that -- been five other attacks.
That the Ben Ghazi compound had been surveillance ahead under surveillance that on sorrow surely get out idling group was on the rise and had been making threats.
And that the CIA station chief reported -- real time that this is a terrorist attack we wouldn't we wouldn't had any problems.
I don't think that.
We have learned anything new in the last couple weeks mean what we've known all along that there I'm answering your question -- right.
Did you know that the State Department was mentally -- -- and editing the talking points.
-- -- and I'm an answer your question right which is.
That we know that there were terrible mistakes made on the ground in Libya that allowed this tragic event to happen and we know that for several weeks afterwards the administration.
Was confused about what happened and -- they weren't so I don't currently don't know that I think.
Megan I think that that took all the back and forth that you've seen in these emails make it clear that there was not consensus.
About what had happened -- that consensus Helio arrived for five days later after the Susan Rice testimony when everything kind of settle down.
Okay but your -- I've got an -- my question about.
Did you know that the State Department was so heavily involved in editing these talking points which Jay Carney directly told us did not happen.
I don't think it's surprising I mean I think that there's as I said on the show literally ten other times.
In the last several months there was tremendous confusion bureaucratic confusion in the aftermath of this trap trap.
Good that I listen it's I I had my lord I have to tell you -- want -- I think I didn't think I believe I want I -- -- -- but it's surprising to me.
Because Jay Carney said this.
On November 28 -- 2012 listen.
-- What though the White House and State Department.
Have -- clear that the single adjustment that was made those talking points by either of those two of these two institutions were changing the -- consulate.
To diplomatic facility because consulate was inaccurate.
Those talking points originated from the intelligence community the reflective DIC's.
Best assessments what they thought had.
Maybe -- -- ninety because I -- was still believing Jay Carney until I saw this evidence mark.
Well Simon Says -- that even on the show ten times.
As saying that there was confusion is actually be on the net and on the show ten times saying that Susan Rice just read what the intelligence community told her.
And that's not true of some State Department was heavily involved -- editing these talking points in -- Seaway operation it was the State Department.
That remove the reference to the fact that they had been that they had been warned repeatedly that al-Qaeda was a bit al-Qaeda was -- had Kerry carried out attacks in the but that was rising.
It was the State Department but took out the reference -- -- -- Sharia which would have put the whole thing in context of the State Department was actively.
Editing these comments and the fact is these talking points were so bad the emails we don't have making that I really -- -- see.
Are the ones to describe where Hillary Clinton turns down the chance to go on the Sunday shows and David Petraeus turns down the chance and on the Sunday shows.
We know the Petraeus said he's talking points are useless he wouldn't say -- -- so why -- Susan Rice who -- that had nothing to do with Ben Ghazi.
Come out become the administration spokesman was she with.
Was she the Mikey of administration spokesman -- just say anything.
Because it's clear nobody else wanted to go out and deliver these talking points Simon and it did Jay Carney mislead us or didn't he.
Certainly appears today that would Jay Carney said.
And November I guess it was was not a -- -- and then again -- -- -- And so but I wanna say one thing about it and so -- as you brought it up several times -- General Petraeus and his testimony in front of congress said that he wanted to reference them so Austria.
Out of those talking points because he was concerned about tipping our hand and letting those guys knew that -- -- gonna come after that -- in that he actively sought to remove.
The reference to -- -- you can go look at the testimonies public testimony and so the point I'm trying to make here is that.
I don't think anything has materially changed right in this we know there's been confusion.
I I know what I think and I don't -- you're -- fuel they're journeyman were clearly that will block a little birdie and I don't think anybody was misleading anybody you just you just admitted Jay Carney was -- you can make sure it was being true -- -- -- -- -- yeah.
You know -- -- -- mistakes made in this Megan there -- clearly been mysterious anonymous and -- -- -- -- say that it was only hole I missed it changes and only one word was change that's not a mistake when we now know that the white house with the one meeting on this issue.
I just can we have not -- -- it would not be so great I gotta go.
Thank you guys.
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