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I the president addressed the attack had been guys -- assuring Americans that he do everything possible to prevent.
Another tactic committed no we -- with the Turkish president right next to him.
But has he done enough to explain the administration's changing narrative -- as former secretary of defense chief of staff.
He is Rumsfeld and author of this brand new book Rumsfeld threw rules leadership lessons in business politics war and in life mr.
First off has the president done enough to explain what happened then.
Oh my goodness -- I'm afraid that he hasn't that -- the first thing you want to do is.
Is to make sure whatever it is the people in the White House say.
And and to get the facts.
And I regrettably they've been than -- it is has been changing over a period of weeks now.
And that's unfortunate because as a result of that people lose confidence and and trust.
In see you -- so many military decisions to make doing your years with President Bush of course.
In a situation like in -- as we know who would give the stand down order to save or not save those for people who -- fighting for their lives for nine hours.
A new -- -- -- under your watch as secretary defense.
-- the only place could come from is down the chain of command it would have to come either from the president or from someone.
Acting for the president.
To through the secretary of defense and then down through the military chain of command.
So and you're saying -- come for the president when the president -- was not there.
Well then I -- military commander or the secretary of defense is -- President and the secretary of defense are the -- commands.
Authorities in our government.
The national command authorities and I it would either come from one of them or it would take place if it's been delegate.
Did it right down the chain of command it could very well come from a combatant commanders somebody at a lower level.
We said David Axelrod was asked to battle these scandals going on now -- he's out of the White House he says about the president.
As -- the president can't be held accountable for what goes wrong.
Underneath him do you think that's an accurate statement.
Well of course not.
The president seemed to have taken an awful lot of credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden which of course was a very good thing.
For our country and for other countries.
But that seems to be the only thing he's really taken credit for.
And everything else he either didn't know where he learned about in the newspaper.
Or is -- responsible for the course that's just not the way an organization works right hey I was going through your book.
I had a chance talk to you on the radio and I just love it.
I gonna put some quotes no one's pull it out.
Sammy Davis junior you came across and he loved Richard Nixon you came across those days.
He has a statement in your book you always have two choices commitment burst your fear what do you mean by that.
Well I think what he meant was that that in life when there is a problem.
You you you have to understand that there are difficulties and challenges and potential problems.
On the other hand.
You have to look at the opportunities you may have to do something constructive and proper.
And and the balance of those things is is what people leaders have to address you actually take -- -- -- statement and you don't necessarily rejected you say.
When he said never let a crisis.
Go to waste you kind of agree why.
Well think of it yeah I think if you're running a company like though the company that had Tylenol.
And all of a sudden they had a terrible crisis some of their.
Product had been tampered with and they seize the moment and were able to do things to reassure the American people that they had taken everything and all the -- and all this is years ago right.
And and and in addition they then fashion.
Tamper proof the containers so that in fact it it wouldn't happen and I think that there is an example of using a crisis to do what's right.
So if you're -- leader of your family of a business small or large a team or an organization.
That's -- type -- thing rumsfeld's rules would come in handy.
The president Ford -- she jotted down and I made a book you'll the Ford foundations so money rumsfeld's rules the name of it thanks so much it's a secretary for joining us.
Thank you good to be with you by coming --
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