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Hits keep coming for the Obama administration first and got seat in the admission at the -- specifically targeting conservative groups of their applications for tax exempt status.
And finally -- the Justice Department secretly seized phone records of Associated Press reporters.
Former US attorney general Michael -- Casey joins us live to talk about it sir thank you for your time today.
Thanks for having Ari can you start because you have a lot of experience it in this field now explain to us.
When the Department of Justice thinks it is necessary to go after -- press record something like these phone records.
How does that work who's supposed to be notified and wasn't done in this case.
Well going after -- -- records in a leak investigation.
Is a very sensitive thing.
Prosecutor can go after any records they want and he's again they're not they weren't wiretapping anybody it was simply go after telephone records but it -- -- -- records.
The usually they did this have to be passed on by -- general himself it doesn't go to any underling.
And the subpoena has to be drawn is -- early as possible.
Some question about whether that was in this case.
And it would make -- a fact that the attorney general did testify before the house this week basically.
I don't know I've been recused from this it wasn't that I'm -- can't say the exact date but I can't give you any answers is that good enough at this point.
Well I think that.
If he'd recuse himself it it should have been done writing hybrid when I recuse myself on the one instance that I can and that that I can Nicole.
It was with a -- Otherwise is no point in the -- because the point is to notify.
Other people who are handling the case that the infant patient should go yet so there has to be right when they should be right.
In addition he knew that he was going to be tough to -- so you would think that.
The would have been some preparation on that point and why -- -- day.
Don't know but I think that what has to be done is to drill down on why the records that were.
Subpoenaed were subpoenaed.
Understand that they were looking for a leak of something that was very close held that the C -- -- was not briefed to congress.
Because it involved absolutely no violent action so there was no need to -- -- to congress nobody congressman notified.
And yet one of the records they were looking -- -- the record of the AP reporter who covers congress and there was no need for that.
And you kind of wonder why they're looking at that record in the records -- so many reporters when they have a very few people who.
Could have leaked the information whose records are the ones that should have -- look that certainly in the first instance.
I'm gonna play a little bit of why the attorney general had to say in -- find this week -- and -- get your reaction here's a bit of his testimony.
I don't know all that went into -- formulation of the subpoena.
This was a very serious.
And very seriously.
And a very very seriously.
I've been a prosecutor since 1976.
And I have to say that this is among.
If not being most serious it is moving in the top two or three.
Most -- -- -- I've ever seen the put the American people at risk and that is not hyperbole can put the American people at risk.
Actually that was from press conference not his testimony but he notes they are obviously there is a national security interest in going after these records.
Must -- administration balanced that way that.
And what obligation does it have to make sure that it doesn't you know crossed the line when it comes to trying to -- those national security interests.
While the administrations.
And the president's first obligation is to keep the country safe and going after.
Leaks and people who decide that they're going to disclose.
Classified information for whatever reason either because they -- -- be in the know because they wanted to settle a score with somebody because -- want to win a debate that they lost in the bureaucracy.
Is a substantial obligations -- -- so -- right to chase it down but when you chase it down particularly when you're.
Looking at press records you have to be very very careful.
Because otherwise what's gonna happen is people who.
Talk to reporters and talked to them perfectly properly.
About things that they can talk to them that even at their superiors would want them to talk about it things that are not classified.
I'm going to be very hesitant if they think a record is being created of that.
And that it's being turned over the government.
So they have to be very careful and very focused and it doesn't look as if it was focused in this case.
My former attorney general Michael Mukasey sir we thank you very much for your time today.
Thank you for having.
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