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So -- let's deal with a refugee crisis first to veto minds that don't eight it seems to me that.
It's getting very little focus.
In at least in the media.
And did the numbers grow every single day it's a desperate situation for the countries that are hosting them and most of -- locals.
For the people who are suffering -- should we be doing about it that we are not currently doing.
But like you described it very well as a very rural -- now one and a half million refugees.
Who -- but there in the last two years I -- spread mainly across Turkey Lebanon Jordan.
And they really are in desperate plight there is.
Obviously some aid reaching them through the UN agencies in the -- crawl the many engineers who -- working.
But the strain that putting on countries like Jordan and Lebanon particular.
And the suffering there -- enduring and the number the way the numbers as -- they buy something like 101000 today.
-- actually terrified is already a serious humanitarian crisis but it could become.
He's been a catastrophe.
What should we do I think the the world -- step up more to give more aid comfort but the US and UK you've been doing a lot.
Other perhaps not -- -- -- they could to make sure that there there are enough of ulcers.
All people like the World Food Program and UNICEF the -- can actually get that that -- through -- people.
One of the problems is that no -- in refugee camps and basically living in pounds and some ways is only indistinguishable from the residents of those sounds of that audit find -- -- to reach.
-- -- -- -- So is this a case that the United Nations to get in there and actually set up -- so John -- is is that the way that you get this organized and get more help to them.
Well of course being easier to provide aid in a refugee program but -- -- -- refugee -- -- pretty miserable places.
And the main refugee camp in Jordan -- -- -- Is not a good place to be a toll from the with the threat -- that it.
So that is why many refugees have gone into the the neighboring towns and -- fifties.
Places like my -- The for the -- that putting a huge strain on the local administration and their attention to rising with the local population.
So this is not a very easy to stable situation and -- you have the risk it would be destabilizing countries like Jordan which already.
You know all the fragile state both politically and economically that we would -- be -- that.
A major crisis.
But the other thing we did talk about is the number of people who so displaced inside Syria and in need desperate need of help do something like for a five million of those.
So -- you have one of the most serious humanitarian crises -- of this century.
But I -- almost impossible.
To get any help.
To those displaced win in this area.
Given the current situation -- you -- think you can't send.
UN forces -- burden probably on armed forces in to deliver that aid in the middle of what is an increasingly brutal civil wall -- Well didn't they get in there -- aid reaching people who were in the government held areas of math with the permission of the government and about to -- that they're very difficult about that they should.
Have more pressure put on them to be more cooperative.
There is a screeching sometimes across the line the route through the government held areas in the rebel held areas -- -- -- -- UN convoys from time to time.
The little bit and here -- we're working directly from neighboring countries in the rebel held areas.
The public what they giving -- the propagation of what's needed in terms of food and clean water and medical supplies.
I think and shelled -- so there's an awful lot more needs to happen but that the major crises inside the country as well.
Aren't so it did it's it's a question of money obviously.
It's a question one assumes a political will.
But also a question a huge question.
All of logistics work and how do those three worked together as one lead the other -- in your experience to jump.
Well that the basis of everything have to beat it shifted -- to be resolved if you don't have the money.
That you simply can't procure the food and they the medical supplies -- that's remove them -- what you've got them that the basic money.
And up mainly come from governments around the world polar opposite from individuals well then you have to put in place -- logistics.
But actually the agencies in the injures are pretty good -- -- long they've got the resources.
But the -- -- the third question of access to view with the guess here there's no easy to get into serious if not impossible.
Some aid is getting through but you need a little more cooperation from the government and in Damascus about these pressure on from outside including for example from people like the Russian.
-- -- -- -- -- actually take the risk.
Of movie insists there is the rebel held areas but also working political organizations on the ground -- -- on the ground who can move around available more.
-- and more safely than that -- international aid workers.
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