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We are back at a house hearing into the IRS can't really see happening on the left hand tighter screen that's underway right now on Capitol Hill.
It's easy to allies as he continues the procedure there we had a top IRS official at the center of this controversy.
To answer any questions.
By taking -- Access.
I have not done anything wrong.
I have not broken any laws.
I have not violated any IRS rules -- regulations and I have not provided false information.
To this or any other congressional committee.
Well I would very much like to answer the committee's questions today.
I've been advised by my counsel to assert my constitutional right not to testify or answer questions related to the subject matter of this hearing.
After very careful consideration.
I've decided to follow my counsel's advice and not testify or answer any of the questions today.
And -- the moment where she walked out to with her counsel we are joined this morning by Kentucky Republican.
Mitch McConnell the Senate Minority Leader of course.
Welcome senator good to have you here this morning and I do want to -- -- on that moment in just demand but I I want to ask you first about the immigration bell.
Which I know is very much on your mind this morning as well it passed out of the committee last night.
Is the bill in its current form coming out of this committee something that you would agree to are you happy with the structure this -- right now.
Well let me say this -- I'm undecided about the bill but I'm not undecided about the problem.
The border is not secure and we need to fix.
Decided yet whether this is the bill to do that but we've got a serious problem along the border we need to fix -- the status quo is not acceptable.
Undecided about the bill but not undecided about the problem would be the best way to sum up feel about it.
I -- the president has said it is very important that we get immigration over the finish line.
A lot of people -- politically.
Believe that Republicans might benefit from getting this immigration bill.
You know put to the full senate floor it is it a bill in the current.
In the current form that you would bring to the senate floor and then having -- go further.
The outlook -- -- it is the only bill that has.
That will be brought up on the senate floor and obviously you can't improve the status quo you can't fix the border and -- should take some action.
As to whether or not this bill achieve that result I think we will not know until the end of the debate.
But we bring it to senate floor as it is yes.
-- -- that's the bill it will come to the senate floor the question is will leave the senate floor.
Will it fix the problem I think we don't know that at the beginning of the debate the debate has to occur occur or multiple weeks.
In June -- all likelihood.
All right was he -- echoes.
And I do ask about this IRS issue.
Hey you know where we watch slowest -- promised -- though she took the fifth.
One of the big issues that has been percolating is when the president knew about this IG report and when he knew about the problem that prompted the IG report.
We now know that -- White House counsel.
As well as Denis McDonough the chief of staff were aware of it but they felt it was inappropriate.
To let the president in -- what was going -- What do you think about that.
Well I think what we know for sure has been is that there's a culture of intimidation.
Occurred across this administration the president demonizing his enemies.
Contending that it shut people up.
Certainly a culture of intimidation as to who knew what with regard to the IRS scandal I think we need to have a complete.
And thorough investigation.
That's going to occur.
Today is just.
One of the early chapters and what is likely to -- quite lengthy book with a lot of chapters before we finally know.
What happened and who knew what and wanna you know -- The big questions though is what the appropriate way to continue this investigation is I mean do you believe that this requires an independent special prosecutor.
To get to the bottom of -- Well.
That's typically initiated.
And administration and what I can tell you for sure is we're gonna have.
A real investigation a serious investigation here in congress.
And interest and lineup over here in the senate controlled by Democrats it appears to that they too.
Wanna have a thorough investigation and of course it can be done on a bipartisan basis over here.
And I'm encouraged that that that the congress will do its job in both the house and the senate to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.
Yeah and we do -- said that both sides seem to be very concerned about this.
I it is a trust issue as Elijah Cummings just brought up in this congress.
Do you see an avenue here for real IRS reform -- -- does -- does -- provide an opportunity.
To say you know for health care for example is as an organization that is -- to.
To build a role that it has which is significant in carrying out the president's health care legislation.
Yeah -- -- American people are now just -- RS has -- important played a role a role to play in enough.
The enforcement of obamacare that we really think that's a good idea I think not.
Actually I think obamacare was the worst piece of legislation been passed in modern times ought to be pulled out.
Root and branch.
But just another good argument against obamacare is the big role -- RSS deployed in the enforcement office.
Do you see an avenue -- in this situation with the IRS to pursue that in a more aggressive way in terms of the repeal of obamacare are overhauling this whole thing.
If the IRS if you say is not fit.
I think repealing obamacare would be the single biggest step we could take toward -- in the country back on track economically.
It's killing jobs.
Health insurance premiums are rising everything Republicans predicted back in 209 when it -- would happen is happening.
And so it's the single biggest impediment.
To getting our economy back in the kind of condition we would all like to see it and is obamacare and of course it's all now being implemented of the medical device faxes gone into effect next -- the health insurance.
A premium tax.
Premiums are going -- jobs are being lost its wreaking Havoc.
With our economy.
Frankly that justices -- -- figure out what a huge mistake they -- we ought to be repealing it root and branch.
I guess the question is what would be the next step -- here and I are saying that.
You do think it's problematic that you do think that it should be repealed but but does this change anything in terms of what the next step would be in in going down that.
-- -- hopes ought to give an example we had a vote in the senate.
A month or so -- -- repealing the medical device tax and 79 senators.
Obviously a lot of Democrats.
Voted to repeal the medical device -- because it's exporting jobs.
And wreaking Havoc was one of our most successful industry.
Whether now there's an effort I would expect there would be.
To eliminate the IRS from the enforcement mechanism -- -- frankly I don't think this -- -- fixable the best thing to do would be -- -- route branches get rid of it.
That's hard to do when you have a Democrat in the White House -- -- -- biggest accomplishment.
But it's not gonna work it's imploding slowly.
And wreaking Havoc with our economy and I think a lot of Democrats are beginning to figure that out the chairman of the finance committee Democrats that it was -- -- -- And his of course absolutely right.
We'll see where this iris issue -- with regard to that senator my college did you talk to -- -- Thank you very much --
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