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Been advised by my counsel to assert my constitutional right.
Not to testify or answer questions related to the subject matter of this hearing.
After very careful consideration.
I've decided to follow my counsel's advice and not testify or answer any of the questions today.
Not slowest learner pardon me from the IRS director.
In charge of the offices that targeted conservative groups at the IRS refusing to answer questions on Capitol Hill just this morning.
Lawmakers wanted to grill her about previous testimony.
But in that opening start statement part of which you just heard she did claim that she never provided false information to any committee.
This is brand new details keep spilling out about the White House orchestrating a plan to spin the scandal before it became public.
Charlie hurt is a columnist for The Washington Times.
And she lived up Charlie to the advance billing she pleaded the Fifth Amendment refuse to answer any questions what do you make of at all.
They're much better organized -- have your -- -- needed to issue should both.
Gave testimony in and defended herself and claim that she did nothing wrong senator repeatedly.
But then at the same time invoked -- her Fifth Amendment right not to to incriminate herself and claimed and refused to answer any questions that that really kind of she she had it both ways.
But you know that the whole this whole scandal it will what's been amazing about that the testimony is.
That these -- officials make -- so easy to despise these people.
I mean you know the they come forward to talk about how difficult it is how hard their job is how many employees they have and how much work they have to go through.
In order to carry out their duties as the IRS can imagine if you -- to file your tax returns on time and you went to the IRS that what I had so much work there's so much paperwork and I would able to get around to be in jail and yet that's exactly what we're seeing from these people.
Yeah and then and then yesterday in a separate hearing mr.
Miller who's the outgoing head of the IRS expressed regret.
But refused to apologize for creating these lists that were you know sucking up information from conservative groups.
Yet that that was due probably the most memorable moment of that entire hearing where he was senator John Cornyn -- you just try to get the -- to apologize and he refused to apologize he kept sort of -- around saying no and then and then at one point another point Douglas -- I think it was -- who was the former IRS commissioner -- also testifying for a committee.
You know said flatly no I'm not personally responsible for -- -- this but but then would say but you know as the head I've -- of course I take responsibility as if he's going to be very generous by.
Taking responsibility but saying very quickly but I was not responsible for any of this if if slowest learner.
Didn't do anything wrong and she says she didn't that and did you know that's what she sent at this at the hearing this morning and we'll take that statement at face value.
Why did she plant a question.
-- one of -- You know friendly lawyers.
To bring this up at an American Bar Association conference this whole thing about targeting conservative groups so that they can apparently.
Let the information leak out there and then hope it would go away.
It's just amazing -- she may be you know technically -- I have -- done nothing legally wrong.
But she has done everything she can to make it look like they have done she has done something wrong.
You're not only invoking her Fifth Amendment right.
Not to incriminate herself but also the whole business about planting a question and letting it sort of come out in this in this -- natural way.
So that that they can just kind of -- the information out there.
-- it -- it -- it looks very suspicious and ended up she may not be guilty of of breaking any laws but but politically.
Did the level of an aptitude is totally inexcusable and I think that that is what the sort of driving the -- But speaking of inexcusable -- you also mentioned in your column that that mr.
Given the time considerations was not able to prepare written testimony for the senate committee.
Matt can you imagine if somebody went dire as an April 15 instead -- -- time constraints I just wasn't able -- to prepare all my paperwork.
You would be going to jail or at least the that -- IRS will be coming after you with that.
With the most punitive damages -- to to not only get back what what you owed them.
But also penalize you for for wasting their time.
And for for for for not.
Filing on time.
You know that we're hearing from a lot of these groups and a lot of people that say that they've been targeted by the IRS but.
Just think of the thousands of people out there who have been targeted by the -- but who but who know enough to be terrified.
And they wouldn't even dream of coming forward because they've been afraid of being target target it further it's it's if any of the IRS has to do its job it has to collect taxes.
That is understood and and it it it doesn't make excuses.
You know I think that they probably go overboard with that lot.
But but this business now watching all of the ineptitude and had -- throwing out all of these ridiculous.
-- any excuses.
It it's really -- -- it's a bad moment.
For the American.
Thank you thank John.
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