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Raises more questions.
-- answer them and I know people like congressman -- dowdy.
Quite -- set at start of this -- hearing because he really wanted.
The people -- to be able to question her even if she was gonna say over and over again I take the fifth.
Right and that's what we saw last week when we -- testimony from her superior.
The man who has now been forced to resign as.
Acting director of the IRS.
Lerner and I might add in both cases these folks potentially -- we're facing criminal.
Because of the idea that they testified incorrectly.
-- the word would be lied to congress.
But we've seen it handled differently Lerner today.
Taking the fifth then again I think raising the stakes raising the political temperature around Washington.
Because people now think something really is very wrong at the IRS.
Absolutely and again a question remains.
Did she take direction from someone above her.
To move in this direction or was this something that she decided on her own would be a good thing to target conservative groups.
Correct and what we've heard so far from IRS officials and from treasury officials there's.
That these decisions were made at a mid management level involving.
People like -- -- but it would've been interesting to hear from this -- Her version of events we've heard everybody else say that it was largely.
Limited to that Cincinnati office although we now have some letters that can come out of Washington in California.
But again that could have been an extension of a decision made in Cincinnati.
Where the office that has to make decisions about tax exempt status is located.
What what I want you think it has knowing now that though the White House counsel apparently knew about this.
-- taking place but.
You know didn't tell.
-- -- -- didn't tell a president anyway that this was going on.
What impact is all -- gonna have in the public's mind given the fact that people that we are learning that there are those in the White House who didn't know about these activities.
Well again I think what we -- it go what they knew to be very clear is they knew about the inspector general right and start investigation that he got we investigate don't know how they write about actual targeting of concern right.
But the lawyers say she did not tell the president and so what we have here in the situation room where -- the latest Waxman's poll.
Says -- of all the scandals and you know that there's been a slot an onslaught of scandals three big ones in the last few days.
That's the one that the voters at the at the electorate thinks is the most likely to explode on the -- 32%.
Say that scandal is the one that concerns them most.
And I think the closer this gets to the White House the more you're going to see that numbered.
Our ratchet up.
And again the reason is that it crosses political lines it's not just Republicans it's not just Tea Party folks although the it's like 95%.
Tea Party folks who identified that as the scandal that concerns -- most greatly.
But it's Republicans and Democrats who think there's a problem a big problem.
With the using the IRS as a political tool to intimidate or ruin your your opponents.
-- Indian really quickly anything from you personally in your reflections as to when you as you've been watching the proceedings or.
The -- do you.
In a very you know interest in a way that you would like to bring out that we perhaps should make -- out.
You know one of the things that I think struck me most.
Close to heart is watching.
On the hill.
And some of them quite.
You know prominent personalities like Harry Reid the senate majority leader who you would think would be just politically protective.
President Obama and the Obama White House saying this is -- exceptional this is bad behavior.
I just think that's a surprise.
It it brings us back to the point why the polls why the American people are very anxious about what's taking place at the IRS come April 15 whom everybody knows you gotta pay your tax -- is very uptight about it.
The idea that now the IRS might be involved in politics even if it was.
In the most benign interpretation.
People think you know what that's the mistake that should not be -- indeed down -- weren't always great to see you always pretend you're right thank -- appreciate it.
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