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Well President Obama is set to lift the ban on transferring to Cheney is out of gitmo bay detention center and -- than -- Yemen.
It is part of a broad speech on US counter terror policy that president is set to deliver this afternoon.
Everybody will be watching now what he says -- closely and we're joined by Karl Rove former senior advisor deputy chief of staff to president George W.
And Joseph Trippi manager of -- manager Howard dean's 2004 presidential campaign both are Fox News contributors welcome -- good to have you here this morning.
No doubt just did just on the politics front Karl it would if you're working in the west playing it's a good time to change the subject that -- imagined.
Yes but -- my understanding is his speech has been scheduled for sometime and frankly we ought to welcome the president speaking on the war on -- he does so infrequently and as a result American people of the support for our efforts abroad have -- because president has been explaining the importance of and I'm glad he's doing it today and -- I don't think it's an effort to sort of change the subject he's been doing that with the economy by traveling around the country this is suspect has not partisan thing.
All right show.
You know is it time is it high time as Karl makes his point to to get back to this discussion and we know that the some of the central things that will be discussed here.
Would be a lift on the ban to send some of these prisoners back to Yemen and we believe that that might.
You know B 86 of the 166.
Could be headed in that direction if this happens.
And then also the shift of the drone strikes and and that.
Overseeing of those from the CIA over to the military what do you make of it.
-- app I agree with Karl outs I don't think this is some sort of distraction I think this is something it which welcome.
But I I I.
I do think it it's high time to to talk about this -- both of these issues have been controversial the drone strikes again.
And gitmo and I think what the president's going to be talking about is the need.
Disorder really balance.
Where the CIA in the military has been since that 9/11.
You what what what I think you're gonna see with the drone strikes is.
Moving getting the CIA to get more refocused on intelligence on.
On those kinds of things in -- in these paramilitary.
Our drone operations -- the military to take on the at the enemy combatants and decide where they can capture them alive.
Or whether they need to do -- drones -- trying to not have the CIA involvement.
Yeah and Carl what about gitmo itself in terms of the move to close it it was one of his first promises if not the first promise I -- in the first term.
And and he's he seems to be headed back in that direction.
Well liquidity and their 166 people there 86 of them from -- and let's be clear that on the people who are left in gitmo or the worst of the worst.
The people who were marginal.
People who might have not been expected to return to the battlefields of those people have and most of them -- are long gone -- gitmo.
And even then we found out that roughly a third of the people.
Just under a third of the people that were -- sent home and these recidivism there are sent home in these kind of programs under the Bush Administration.
A third of them came back to the battlefield so we ought to be very careful about we got the worst of the worst -- that chance of recidivism of them coming after us again -- very high.
And Yemen which is one of the two countries we're talking about I would worry about their ability to.
House these people rehabilitate these people and monitor these people is a not a particularly very strong government.
And we may be asking way too much of them in Afghanistan who were actually talking to as well about taking back -- people.
They may have a divergent interest from us they may be happy to take these people back and then release them in an effort to cultivate the Taliban and extremist elements because.
The afghanis are very focused on the fact that we're saying we're out of here in 2014.
And there's an after you get out of here maybe we need to have better relationships with.
With with our opponents -- I worry about the the rush to close gitmo it's it's.
And that we're in a war and didn't need a place to give you disagrees and -- -- I get -- here added that the threat of homegrown terrorism and the possibility that anyone of these individuals could be involved and that.
Martha I think oh look there's not going to be some Willy Nilly they all 466.
Did get released I mean.
The -- first of -- that of the Pentagon cast the certified it anymore it each individual that would be room.
Set back their country they have to certified.
That there that they believe the the person is not gonna go back into the battlefield we've seen at twice the hard part you know either have nothing committed an hour or suspected to have gone back to know this -- No this is -- this is something they changed about a year ago and doesn't actually go into effect I think for.
Another few months where the military has to certify that they can be released.
The second thing now is that the facility itself would have it.
The rehabilitation and the monitoring all have to be certified by by so it -- -- look at the hundred million dollars were that.
They've asked -- to fix up -- gitmo.
The million dollars per.
Detainee that we're spending a year to keep them there win.
Allies like the saudis like the kuwaitis.
Who will build cap bill prisons.
To our specifications.
To how housing it in the -- have to have a -- read the rehabilitation program.
And monitoring all have to be certified by Stephen.
The entertain the Pentagon certifying.
The detainee goings and it -- you know it all these things help to happen.
And a well -- -- We we we've had access we've had similar efforts to require certification the past they have -- work and -- say one quick thing about drones.
I'm a little bit worried about the president's statements today on -- that would holder said.
There were gonna reduce drone strikes Vienna and Taylor and mirror them only to where there's -- -- continuing imminent threat to Americans.
We're gonna end signature strikes -- -- strikes on groups of al-Qaeda or terrorist fighters.
Who don't represent quote an imminent threat to Americans.
Gives me some pause what we're saying is rolling and worry -- if we think it directly imminently affects Americans we're not we're not gonna we're not gonna.
We're not gonna take guys bad guys if they represented a threat there are -- that's a problem gentlemen thank you very much important happen.
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