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Joining us now from Washington DC ambassador John Bolton former US ambassador to the UN and a Fox News contributor.
Real clear politics dot com reporter Caitlin Huey burns also joins -- nice to have you both -- bastard let me start with you.
On the subject of get now he is once again demanding that the prison be closed asking congress to do it.
-- he is asking to designate a site in the US to hold military tribunals.
For gitmo detainees is well now on -- -- Congress.
Resoundingly said no to both before.
How's it gonna be any different now.
Well I don't think it will be any different I mean I really think the dominant theme of the speech is probably the precise opposite of what the president intended to convey after four and a half years.
He still doesn't understand the nature of the war against terror he said repeatedly he wants to.
Detain and prosecute.
Terrorists is if this is a normal criminal law system.
Problem rather than a war not that we're waging not that we want -- wage in perpetuity but that's being waged against us and I think that.
-- -- that confused and internally contradictory statements that he made including once again coming back to trying to get rid of get -- Kate.
-- I wanna put up on the screen a Fox News poll on gitmo.
A huge number of Americans a vast majority of them 63%.
Do want to keep it open.
Senator Kelly I -- Said and we talked to her a couple of hours ago -- there is little appetite in congress for shutting it down is that your sense.
That is my offense and Republicans.
In response to the president's speech.
Want more assurance says that.
About what what happened to.
Detainees once they're released or transferred they don't really.
Know what and they don't really have that assurance from the government and they haven't seen that.
From the president so they want to be reassured.
-- and they won't that the detainees released or transferred won't returns back and fight against the Iraq.
Ambassador of the president all on the subject of the prisoners themselves and transferring.
Many of them to Yemen and getting them out of of -- now.
He said that's going to be his priority now he's gonna be putting things in motion to do that.
Here is former secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld earlier on Fox News take a listen.
The problem is.
-- the ones that are left are the most difficult ones they're the worst of the worst.
Number of the ones that have been sent back over the past years have ended up ended up back on the battlefield killing American.
On ambassador the recidivism rate is 28% according to the director of national intelligence and other words.
These terrorists are going to be set free to terrorize Americans all over again.
Right you know the president cited the number of terrorist.
-- at least during the bush -- administration and and I would say that's a very telling point we probably released far too many.
For precisely that reason and when it comes to Yemen.
You know there may be a worse time to turn terrorist back over to Yemeni authorities but I can't think of what it is this is an open invitation for these people to return to the battlefield.
I think the policy is very unrealistic but I think it's driven.
By this idea logical notion that you can handle terrorism like it's sort of souped up version of robbing a local Starbucks and that's just not gonna work.
Yeah I think -- jumped down and us the president said that the United States is safer today.
Because of his work in his administration's work to combat terrorism.
Don't agree with that at all take a look at this Fox News poll.
Our Islamic terrorists more -- of the threat today than right after 9/11.
Saying more only 28%.
Say less now that's the sentiment what about the facts.
To the facts.
Ambassador belied the president's claim that we're safer.
-- absolutely the president's.
Has spent four years trying to define the threat of international terrorism in a very narrow way to mean the al-Qaeda leadership in Waziristan along the Afghan Pakistan border.
Which has been decimated there's no question about it the trouble is that in the last ten years since our first nine elevenths.
The al-Qaeda threat has metastasized.
Into the Arabian Peninsula into the -- -- into Iraq.
It doesn't follow -- corporate or government organization chart it's -- much more.
But the threat is growing not receding and the idea that we can.
Walk away from the battle.
Assumes that it only takes one to tango and sadly it does not the terrorists are coming against us they did in Boston on April the fifteenth.
They did in London yesterday.
As we mentioned in the -- -- Americans overwhelmingly support the use of drone strikes to kill terrorists abroad.
And now the president is announced seen not just a subtle change but a very dramatic change in three -- he wants to limit their use.
To when Americans faced imminent threat number one number two he will not strike when capture is possible and number three.
He wants to determine to near certainty near certainty.
That no civilians will be killed.
Don't those three conditions essentially and that drone strike policy there almost impossible.
Depending on how they're interpreted I think that's exactly right and I think it goes to this fundamental point is the president really would prefer to have trials in the southern district of New York by federal prosecutors then then deal with the real threat of terrorism that this is an approach that is got to leave us.
Far less secure but it's it's something he obviously believes in.
Deeply is a matter of ideology and I think that's what's driving the policy here not national security well and what is -- -- confounding as opposed to those who were watching the speech is the president spent a great deal of time talking about how successful.
The -- -- strategy has -- which invites the question.
Why eight Alter -- why mess with success.
Exactly I'm very glad the president did make a robust defense of his use of drones and indeed the use of force against terrorism I think it helps legitimate -- these approaches.
And when you have a president who does more fully appreciate the threat of international terrorism.
We've now enshrine these tactics that can be used in our own self defense so for that I think we should be grateful.
Ambassador John -- always a pleasure to speak -- -- thanks so much for being with us thank you.
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