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Hello everybody I'm Eric -- -- welcome to cash in again.
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This week Wayne Rogers Jonathan Hoenig.
Kimberly Guilfoyle and Kirsten Powers joins us welcome everybody calls growing for the White House to can a lot more Irish workers but.
Hires workers are unionized in unions protect their members Kimberly.
-- -- unionizing their employees is this a conflict of interest.
I think it's a great question is it is an inherent.
A conflict of interest there's bias in bed in there when you have a situation like this for their protected it's very difficult to remove them.
They have a positive incentive to go along with the administration and of course if you look at these numbers the IRS workers political donations.
2000 -- eight and 2000 and twelve to present Obama.
Dollars in contributions.
Per cent of them contributed says that President Obama and his reelection because.
They got a good thing going with him so they want to make sure it stays in place vs Romney and McCain and 20082012.
-- so no wonder they -- I decided -- -- there the political action committee that packs right are far outnumber the donations to Democrats than they do to Republicans Jonathan you did you love and don't it.
Hot -- you know I was an -- people the right to unionize but I think.
Any employer including the federal government has to be I don't I'm much room is thought to hire them and -- destroyed.
Every single industry in which they've been intimately involved steel airlines textile.
-- education we've talked about at great length between ex wife private employers by large walk -- work with unions these days the only place to influence is going of course.
Is in government where is the IRA's IRS case shows they can use force against their political opponents that's why we should cut ties to them altogether kiss and explain to be.
Why the government employees -- -- we the taxpayer we paid a -- why should they be heavily unionized.
Because I've people have a right to unionize -- I don't think I can get any any group of workers has a right to unionize and I do I do think unions historically have played a really important role in our.
Country that's -- And it is time to look at some of the issues about not being able to fire people whether it's firing teachers -- prior -- government workers you know I worked in the Clinton administration and we have somebody who is a civil servant and my little area who just never came to work -- She doesn't allow a lot yeah I I'd still tell -- what's what's going our lowest -- Who pled the fifth the other day last week on in front of a congressional -- panel saying that -- -- -- incriminate herself she's she's paid by the taxpayer we want to know when she knew when she knew but she wants to plead that.
And she can get it in the aftermath of that.
She's what does not even let go she's put on administrative leave with pay because she's part of -- union this is what drives us crazy.
A bloody crazy I don't think I think you can support the idea and unionizing and still have this drive you crazy.
You know I guess the argument in favor of not fire her right away is that they want to get all the information and find out what happened.
But this sends a fundamental message I think to the American people about the IRS which is that they don't think they're accountable and you know not of -- can plead the fifth -- four audited.
Right right got that right let me let me -- -- Gary -- -- you're -- with unions but what about.
Union's European those -- what I know I think.
Eric I think you have to ask yourself I mean everybody does and argued.
What you could is a union of federal workers what are they doing that they've been abused by the taxpayers is that why they need protection from the union.
No unions will -- for the purpose of protecting the worker.
And that -- golden somewhat but still good and Jonathan is wrong when he says that there are all bad that not all bad -- a very good summit on some very good work.
But in this case where it's a -- it's that taxpayers who have the people who are paying that.
Did -- salaries of those people.
They have not they should not be unionized and they should not have the right ask -- -- let me let me get let me get why -- -- doing and get back to Kimberly lets say they'd be union agree that of the federal employee could be unionized.
Should -- be it would donate so much money to a certain particular president's.
We're reelection campaign.
Not because they're coming to their organization to the business with unclean hands because essentially they have that inherent bias belts and they're rewarding in fact the administration to put that man that's keeping him in the job.
They should it to be more privatize in particular so somebody's not doing their job -- there targeting American citizens they should be able to be.
Remove look at this situation here we are rewarding deceit and tyranny with.
Slowest learner and saying hey you can glad -- the American people get ill prepared statement take the -- and collect a paycheck wow that's instantly.
I mean how how long would that how long event last in the private sector would last -- zero hour let alone one day or one quarter I mean I think ultimately.
Erica the bigger picture here isn't even to to cut unions but cut that government influence in the IRS can be literally.
Fifty people in an office in Washington under a flat tax but when you give government the power -- to regulate the big favorites of course you get cronyism right and the unions are thriving McCrory here and Kathie -- plays the thriving and government -- and what about what it.
It it just bothers me that down with the taxpayer pays these employees they go ahead and give some money to their union and they union turns around.
And makes political contributions to keep the same bozos in August that gave them the jobs in the first place it's as it sounds -- -- -- putt kind of crony.
The system circle.
Why can you explain me how that's different then firefighter unions or police unions who are more likely to donate to Republicans I mean -- you post those unions as well and should they not be able to my concern is on the president level.
My concern is why I thought the difference what's the difference -- is the same concept and dedicate some winds that because signing Kansas is hanging in security and other US reflect life.
Yes -- question scare is usually so -- -- held on guys someone in Kansas is paying their taxes.
There are that there IRS collects the taxes and that money is turned around given -- -- employees.
Big big unit turns -- as you know I don't like -- Obama because he keeps me off a second to plead the fifth when bad stuff happens and I can keep my job.
That's the problem.
And he says you shouldn't tell local to the mayor of New York City appear part of the firefighters or -- dog.
There is a different to let me explain to you the difference the difference is the federal government has the right to tax.
That's the difference and in the case of both -- -- -- local daily contact -- -- let me finish let me finish no they can protect your income.
They can tax your income tax and they can -- you about accountable for that yes there are a state income tax -- yes but and and yes they are all local taxes.
But they and don't have the taxing authority that the federal government -- I Johnson last -- a quick.
I think any employer.
Big corporation large corporation that's why.
They're all moving away from Herring unions we've seen the destruction they re why -- IRS be any different or any other branch of government program have to leave it there.
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