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This special edition of Hannity now he was both the youngest and the oldest secretary defense serving first under president Gerald Ford later under president George W.
And if that is not enough -- resume he also served as White House chief of staff and spent seven years in congress.
Now is the author of our brand new book rumsfeld's rules leadership lessons in business politics war in life.
And tonight for the entire hour he'll be here and joining us now -- special studio audience former secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld -- Excellent thank you -- -- -- back.
All right you know I think you would have been a better to run these rules right -- -- the power of a crap.
You know what -- read the book and I really enjoyed it one of the best things I got out of the book is they kind of describe my life.
He got to be willing to start at the bottom I was a paper boy a dishwasher a busboy a waiter bartender I got painted -- paper.
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An entire department in government.
It probably helps that when you see that is the people that are working hard every day and start now -- that that you remember we came from.
Indeed you have to and.
I did and it was one of the wonderful things about it because you.
You've had some of the similar experiences course I also served in the navy so when I was at the Pentagon that my father was in the name.
Before -- so where.
I had that background as well which is -- -- but the reason you say start at the bottom is it gives you humility now except to some people rise to the ranks of television talk show host I can name names they are not humble in real life -- Apple iPhone app.
Why what what -- -- is not an autobiography.
I accept that but let's put it really humility is a great trait to have and a leader.
And and starting at the bottom gets you there.
It does having having done what others you're asking others to do helps yeah.
All right one of the things I was so glad run these rules I'm saying Rummy and shortening that.
I I hate meetings.
I find most meetings are long unnecessary.
A waste the time.
And you say if you even need to have one how to run a meeting -- first question.
-- -- -- to decide whether you really need more you know meetings meetings can be in really -- enormously important because you can get everyone in the room working off the same.
Set of facts.
And can communicate to everyone the same time.
But so many people find meetings wasteful of time they start late they go too long people say repeat things and aren't prepared.
You don't have a good agenda and they don't summarize -- the end.
And -- they're good meetings a good meeting and it's important but there's so many Americans are so much take.
Knology -- -- meeting dot com you can use that and a movie face as you get to look at everybody collaborate boom you're on you -- you still you know I didn't have to make that the long trip.
Another rule that you -- is picking the right people.
And there are some insecure people that never wanna pick strong personalities around one of one of the reasons I would argue for any success I have.
As I've got great people around me some -- even smarter than me.
Most are basically like our.
I see our thanks very much -- -- No it's true a -- days in these higher seeds.
And one of the most important things you can do is to is to.
When you're coming up find some days and try to be around them and and the people that are around them and learn from them because.
They they sparkle.
After they give -- ideas actually started fought and -- -- that if the program is Hannity.
And we have somebody gave me an idea I get credit for whether -- conservative it's.
You know I love -- -- the art of war.
I'm sure you probably haven't memorized.
But one of the things you people don't think strategically that's what are -- rules -- strategic.
In the things that -- doing why are people more strategic and in the way they they go about their lives.
Well first of all it's hard.
It -- to be strategic you've got to decide what is more important than everything else.
And be willing to plant the standard way out there and say that's where we're going.
Mean you think of president Ronald Reagan when he was asked his policy on the Soviet Union.
And he said we win they lose at strategic my goodness is -- strategic everyone in the administration.
Then knew that that's kind of where they were going in.
And indeed that is where he took them.
While it may god bless him for it and -- wasn't but many ways that maybe this is and we'll get into big -- -- we'll get into Libya we'll get into the IRS.
In a few minutes with you but.
I think when the president refuses to acknowledge a truth.
That Libya was -- terror attack.
And tell the American people the truth or Fort Hood.
The official government line to this day.
Is that Fort Hood.
Major Hasan screaming Allahu Akbar and killing innocent people was an instance out of terror but workplace violence.
So if you missed it strategically you make a decision that you can -- -- the truth.
Do you ever going to be able to solve a problem but that's true -- and we're suffering from that today there's no question about it if people are so afraid of being seen me as against her religion that -- unwilling to talk about radical Islamism and and the fact that there are people in this world not a majority.
Not a majority of Muslims a small minority.
That are determined to -- civil wipe out essence a pretty large majority a pretty large percentage percentage should not phenomenon a majority -- well.
-- well it's definitely not a majority.
One of the things I think you put it this all run these rules population we're gonna get that Monica Crowley's rules and minute.
-- in our audience.
You have to plan.
For the uncertainty.
You know in the news business I've got to be ready at any moment something is going to break that I didn't plan for that Shelton and in life life is like that.
In in politics.
Being a Defense Secretary you're always planning for the uncertainty of life right indeed.
Are things you don't know you don't -- and they can occur in your life and and you've got to be able to deal with the -- cope with them.
I have a chapter on crisis management in the book and it's it's not something that's easy.
But it's terribly important to get the facts out and put the facts out so that people know the truth about something.
And if people grab arguments of convenience.
Or or put -- a narrative that doesn't prove out over time.
They're hurt they're badly damaged right.
In the next chapter after planning for -- certainty is unknown unknowns.
And it's true you know life and this is.
Blew things that bothers me is I think it's very hard for good people.
To wrap their arms around one simple truth and that's it evil exists in this world.
We saw that in Boston we saw that with this guy that kept these young young women hostage and -- them for ten years.
We -- with radical Islam we saw with fascism and nazism and communism and terrorism.
Why don't people -- can't people acknowledge that simple truth.
The only way you're gonna prevail over an enemy and that is an enemy radical islamists and if it's to do identify it.
Label it call it what -- and be willing to.
He engage ideologically against that fall most thought to mean people think of the war on terror is more like.
-- Korea -- World War II it's much more like the Cold War it's gonna take decades it's not going to be one with bullets alone it's clearly gonna take.
Engaging the ideological space.
And finding ways to reduce the number of people that are recruited reduce the number of dollars that are going into training people -- going out kill.
Innocent men women and children that's what has to be done but we're not even in that that battle not even occupying that space we're gonna.
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