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And they get a -- -- message from my grandma who sounded very excited this is very usual and that should call me in the -- -- -- -- asked -- to call her right away -- of course.
I say thinking of the worst case scenario is nothing for my rank.
So I call her back if she proceeds to tell -- that someone called her and said I was in trouble.
Data needed money and talk to her -- -- -- plus minutes about what they needed -- -- in the phone call was confusing they knew a lot about where she lent.
And it -- have to determine what was it real here it turns out.
This -- -- scam it's something our State Department just recently issued a warning on.
It's called the grandparents.
-- because grandparents -- target and I called Morgan right after this happens he's a frequent -- of our show is a former advisor to the State Department -- since you Morgan he's also really.
Knows a lot about cyber crime -- seemingly so.
Grandparents can't you know some dependents your email you can you can just erase it -- -- causing us some information about your grandkids and -- It's enough to make you need to stop a list for a little while what what when he supposed to -- Well but what they do -- state they do a common trick which is they don't say your name they say hi Gramm.
And that of course they replied back Jenna like probably what your grandmother did -- -- say Dillard you know Steve.
They use that information is the first step is to develop.
Confidence you know that hey look I did develop credibility I am in fact that person.
And then the -- -- -- and the next thing they do is they set the hook.
They say here's what's happening may create a sense of urgency I need money right away that it goes and asking for the money and then the biggest thing is keep it -- what you can do.
It's simply don't buy into it when you and I talked that day when -- -- I said look if somebody's in -- they're not going anywhere.
You know spend a couple minutes and call and find out what's really going on don't buy into the sense of urgency that these cameras are trying to use on -- An estimate Rehman did she she gave me a call and -- we figured out it's interesting no Morgan that they gave her a lot of information they told her that.
They were a law enforcement official.
And -- different numbering 877 number I wish I proceeded to call.
Probably not very effective -- that was a little angry about this and -- picks up the phone and says US embassy.
Just like there a government official now of course we know a US embassies not gonna do that but right I can't believe that they would give the phone number that then people can call.
And and we by the way have repeatedly called them for the last four days just -- -- conversation.
But what it took the turns out in the answering machine that comes up every once in awhile we call it the Canadian number.
-- that try to -- what what is that about.
Well look one of the areas and it actually comes out of -- it's and I won four area code the Canadian government has its own site called phone busters dot com.
These a lot of these scams seem to originate out of come back as well but also other parts of the world so to be fair for Canada.
But you know what their daughters are trying to use -- social engineering they're trying to get you to call a number.
And somebody answers there it says hey look this is the embassy.
That's not gonna happen and look quite frankly a lot of times.
The embassy when they call -- gonna have you know there there is actually service the State Department has for citizens for overseas but the first.
Thing you should always do.
Is somebody says it's you or somebody else first need -- you -- you verify.
Where are they located where -- out right now because that will be the first step of stopping this scam from.
Happening cattle -- -- -- target Morgan had a they know.
This number goes to a grandparent.
It's it's what it is it's called dialing for dollars you just simply pick up -- you keep dialing and when somebody answers -- appears to.
State your audio profile they seem to be elderly they seem to be -- you know potentially grandparent.
That's where you do that look if if somebody says -- -- hi it's grandma it's me and a goat can't because I don't have any grandkids are too young.
They just hang up the phone and they move on so it's really at at the law of large numbers if you call enough people.
You get a certain amount of people to answer and after that you get a certain amount of people to engage in the scam with.
They're nine and by the way and asking for huge amount of money asking for a couple hundred dollars a couple thousand dollars called the police department when my grandmother lives fix it again didn't want to deal.
And they did listen I'm cheating give them any money so there's no crying -- -- -- not much you can -- and there's nothing really can do to prevent them from calling back.
But you should always -- with things like this even though you may be one of a thousand.
Contact things like the Internet crime complaint center I C three dot gov that's run by the FBI the national caller our national white collar crime center.
-- document these things that's -- when John was talking about the statistics that's where these things come from.
It's important to -- that -- you're one call may not be the one that breaks that you know the straw that breaks the camel's back.
You get enough that he still start identifying their groups in the people responsible form.
And what they'll get it so get a lot of these cases put together eventually it'll rise far enough up on the radar they're gonna say we gotta take down these guys and they will target them and go after them.
Hope they -- I was angry Martin can can attest to that I was angry -- -- -- I met with my -- The problem right.
Oh look there's a special place and you know where reserved for people go after the elderly so we're we're glad to help you go after -- Morgan thank you very much appreciate -- and we should read about it Johnny really treat patients is remaining in -- your grandparents or anyone that's elderly just because it's easy -- -- years knows now all right -- -- -- their investment attractiveness.
Number no more than they did it didn't make her nervous for a little -- -- and I'm upset about the kids.
And she's -- get any money but they made her worried especially because these are folks who didn't grow up in an era of this kind of right -- and when you could you -- trust your neighbors for exactly what he -- -- good movement.
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