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Fox News alert new questions for the attorney general Eric Holder as congressional investigators deep -- that bear.
Look into whether mr.
holder lied to congress -- -- brand new hour -- of America live welcome everyone I'm Megyn Kelly.
Two leading members of the House Judiciary Committee today sending a letter to the AG demanding that he clarified parts of his testimony.
From a hearing on May fifteenth.
About possible over reach.
By his Justice Department when it comes to investigating leaks and more particularly investigating.
Members of the press who receive leaks.
The letter signed by committee chairman Bob good -- and Wisconsin congressman Jim sensenbrenner.
holder a litany of questions about the DOJ is dealing with the press.
Mister polar older.
Had signed off on a warrants.
Naming our own Fox News James Rosen as a possible criminal co conspirator.
And having that knowledge.
Nonetheless appear before congress on May fifteenth.
And testified this way.
With regard to the potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material that is not something that.
I've ever been involved -- heard.
All we think would be a wise policy and.
Joining -- now Wisconsin Republican Jim sensenbrenner.
Congressman great to see again so -- -- on whether there is.
Charge looming for the attorney general here.
Absolutely areas because Michael it's a -- after that -- Disclosed that the Justice Department signed -- it would affidavit.
To get a search warrant from a judge.
That accused James Rosen -- possibly violating the Espionage Act or at least -- -- -- -- her being co conspirator.
But that's really chilly.
With the press because of somebody leaks classified information.
Even though it might not be labeled as such.
If reporter does his job then he can be either named it criminal or co conspirator.
And if there ever was in the sold on the First Amendment freedom of the press this is it.
I know it's chilling and I see the controversy in what mr.
holder did but but accusing him of possible perjury of lying under oath before congress.
Takes it to another level and indeed the the -- top Democrat on the committee.
John Conyers came out and said.
holder did not mislead the committee and there is no need I'm quoting to turn a policy disagreement into allegations of misconduct.
Well I mr.
Conyers is -- and it's being partisan on this.
You just played holder's response to a question asked by democratic congressman Hank Johnson of Georgia.
Now we didn't know about these search warrant.
But he said that day he'd never heard of -- Thought it was a bad policy.
And yet mr.
-- coffers replied that he signed off this search warrant.
A couple of years before hand.
Now that is misleading congress.
Whether his perjury or not I guess depends upon how mr.
holder answers to questions the chairman good -- now I have requested him to do so.
And we want to have an answer no later than Wednesday of next week June 5.
He told you -- -- in that sound bite we just heard that he had never heard of nor -- involved in that the potential prosecution.
Of journalists in these leaked cases.
And yet just to show the viewers what mr.
holder reportedly signed off fine according -- is a -- with NBC as well as the Daily Beast.
Which had an interview with a holder from the look -- it that was published earlier this week.
This is what his at this is what the US attorney alleged the FBI alleged to get the search warrant against James Rosen something that.
Holder would have no.
He signed off -- so he tells you have never had any involvement -- I have never heard of it ever happening and look at what the FBI alleged in the in the thing he signed off fun.
According to reports number one.
There's probable cause to believe that the reporter James Rosen has committed or is committing a violation of the FBI had to act as an eight or better -- or -- co conspirator.
And -- -- even far even further and says because of the reporter's own potential.
Criminal liability in this matter.
We believe that requesting the voluntary production of the materials from him.
Would be futile and he goes on from there so he specifically goes on to say this FBI guy.
That that Rosen has got potential criminal liability -- yet holder told you.
He's he never even heard of potential.
Prosecution of a journalist for disclosures.
Well if that isn't misleading congress -- -- -- -- I don't know ideas.
But even if you accept mr.
Conyers is an explanation that holder did nothing wrong.
He's not in charge of this department.
He's lost the trust of congress tonight submit the American people as well in the ought to resign for twelfth.
He's come out and did -- press reports we hear his state of mind today in particular the Daily -- report.
Saying that first of all the gravity of the situation didn't really sink in until he read the Washington Post story about what he did DeRozan.
That he's beginning to feel it creeping sense of personal remorse on this.
That the message now -- -- DOJ is look we get it we understand that holder sees this as a quote kind of teaching moment.
And that his own personal soul searching has already.
Is that sufficient.
It's -- -- it's a teaching moment because he got caught.
Purely and simply these warrants were issued in 2011.
There was an indictment.
Returned against mr.
Kim for espionage.
And -- was stated in the indictment is an unindicted co conspirator.
He -- an unindicted co conspirator simply because he was doing his job.
And that's what the press is supposed to do it does make any difference whether it's a Fox News reporter or somebody who.
Get -- MSNBC.
The press is got a job to do and it's obvious that Rosen was trying to get to the bottom of this.
I've been on the judiciary committee for my entire 35 years in congress.
I have work with the -- attorneys general including mr.
Nobody has gone so far as -- -- what mr.
holder's department is done.
Either he knew about it in which she Casey lied.
Horry -- know about it in which case he's not crawl over control of this department and I think he ought to resign.
You believe he's an honest man.
I had a very good relationship with him when he was Janet Reno's deputy attorney general.
During the Clinton administration.
There obviously has been a change -- -- method of operation.
And that's got to come from the top.
Is now going to meet with -- reporters and investigate.
His own behavior and -- he wants to hear from us whether.
He's behave badly and whether they need to change their guidelines in terms of investigating press and so on.
Is activist stop the bleeding I mean is that gonna stem this that the tide of controversy in your view.
No it won't end a lot of the things we've seen from this administration is when they get caught doing something bad and this bad policy they come back and say they want to change the law.
Well if the press shield law that they're pushing now is the same as the one they pushed in the last congress.
That would not have covered this situation.
The Justice Department would still be able to do this some future reporter what it did did James -- it.
Simple as that soul.
-- I think this is false remorse.
I know you want a prompt reply that's what you that's for in this letter.
If if I mean do you expect to get one and if you don't get one what's your next move.
The next move I think could be -- You may were call it this was the same committee that found him in contempt of congress which the house approved.
But the Justice Department is now in cork.
Trying to get their boss cited for contempt of congress.
If they continued to blow us off on this -- the only real alternative is a special prosecutor.
Or an independent counsel.
That's what happened during Watergate I don't think this rises to the level of Watergate -- But I think the only way the American public will have.
Any kind of faith and what happens following an investigation is that it is done outside the Justice Department.
-- the ultimate losses not Eric Holder or his boss the president of the United States.
Represented James Sensenbrenner thanks so much for being here to have you all the best.
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