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The issue of cyber security you've seen in the way that he's taken executive action you've seen -- in the way that we pressed for.
Action by congress on this.
And the president considers this a very top priority will be very interesting to see if in the upcoming meeting in California between President Obama and she can paying.
If the whole cyber issue and in IPR theft.
If it actually breaks through to a top two or three issue and if it does.
And if you find that a work program is created around this issue going forward for the rest of the year.
That will be a very good sign because so far there's been nothing in terms of the work of both countries around IPR theft.
Jon Huntsman on a private commission dealing with us cyber threats and cyber.
-- stealing relates.
Report came out the China steals more than 300 billion dollars worth of America and ideas as well as research and development every year about the panel.
Charles I guess the question becomes.
That the White House says this is a top priority but at what point do you crossed the line we we obviously the report about all of the defense.
Plans that have been stolen -- park port.
Does it become cyber war and not to decide -- stealing.
The -- -- we are in cyber war.
But it's one side is it really interest rates.
It's a very damaging issue it is known intellectual property.
Damage and our economy and now as we -- in this.
Report damaging our national security was high tech weapons or compromise.
Was anything is that is the second that kind of new kind of warfare we've had in our generation and we terrorism.
We start with a passive defense.
After nine elevenths we realize that you have to go on active defense here with the cyber war which is ongoing we are entirely passive mode.
And in the end it can't succeed because the other guys will be ahead of -- I think we really have to unleash the beast here and to counterattack now here's the problem.
With terrorism you don't allow individuals to go -- -- to counterattack.
Freelance we have organized army knew it I think what we ought to be thinking about is units -- operate in the government.
Under the -- certain agencies who will launch cyber attacks against the Chinese as a deterrent as a way to say because the Chinese.
Don't take any of this seriously we never -- -- and high levels.
-- to any extent are passive defenses are a joke you wanna get the Chinese attention cyber attack and do with the same way that we do in the end terrorism.
Under a government agency and with control.
Well a lot of things happen at the NSA that are not talked about him.
Red team blue team kind of things nothing but also it's going on because it obviously isn't.
Extremely effective and given the extent of them of the Chinese attempts on -- -- one.
Well I think the administration has tape taken -- much sharper tone with the Chinese in recent months.
And I -- -- -- the national security advisor has been over there and he spoke about the urgency in scope of the problem the Pentagon has directly said.
That the Chinese Government is responsible for this that.
They have in the past have said well that those -- -- some Chinese companies but the defense the Pentagon the Defense Department stressed that.
Those are agencies of the Chinese.
Military that -- factor conducting these kinds of attacks.
And then of course it had in recent months the attacks on the New York Times the wall Wall Street Journal.
Directly tied to the Chinese.
Now President Obama supposed to meet next week with the Chinese president.
The -- paying.
And he's -- of what we heard today at the White House from Jay Carney was he plans to make this a priority in terms of their talks but.
You know -- -- to hear the White House talk about it -- seeking China.
To investigate our concerns and start a dialogue on cyber issues and that's not exactly.
Now let me I think they're slow getting off the -- -- you -- hear that they are starting to -- realized the scope of this and maybe that's what this report will do sort of push them even more.
I like Charles was approaching this there's a legal scholar Jamie raskin who proposes issuing letters of mark the way we did to nineteenth century privateers.
Two unleash them on China -- -- that ultimately.
The Chinese are a bunch of Clinton credit thugs and the only respect power and have to put a price in some in the beginning where it for free -- at one complicating factor.
We want an economic relationship with China.
They're holding him responsible and accountable have and I have never before.
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