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Well a fresh battle is brewing on education.
This time over the new common core standards already adopted by 45 states the common core.
Aims to better prepare students for college level work through national math and literacy benchmarks.
But some conservative critics say it is an on wanted and unconstitutional.
Federal intrusion into a policy area traditionally left to state and local.
Governments Joseph Klein is the former chancellor of the New York City public schools.
He's now the executive vice president -- News Corp.
the parent company of the Wall Street Journal and Fox News.
And director of amplify its education -- I spoke with him earlier.
And asked him why he supports the common core standards.
I support him fundamentally for two reasons one.
I think our nation needs to have rigorous internationally benchmark standards resident -- fifty states.
Released dumbed down which is largely what's gone on in the last decade in these standards are demanding rigorous -- standards can be improved.
But these -- a major step forward.
Second of all all it's long past time when people in one state.
Should be getting an entirely different education from people in another state -- -- -- tomorrow gonna have to compete globally.
And a very very challenging global economy and it's time we got our United States aligned.
And ready to meet those standards otherwise would find kids graduating and -- I'm prepared but a lot of people would argue with -- and say -- -- what does that violate would you just say it violates our traditional understanding of where education is controlled and where policies and that is that the local.
Level and its finance fundamentally by property taxes at the local level why should we have national standards.
Vote for so -- -- it came together -- let's be clear about cause a lot of people want to present this.
-- some bolt from Washington it's not going to happen the governors came together and I think they figured out.
That they need calm in the whole line and internationally benchmarks and second -- The control issue is not going to be at a Washington the control issue -- going to be in the states but what you need to -- mobile.
-- to say -- -- she's been successfully educating.
There's no reason why the -- shouldn't come together so we have a common sense our kids don't compete.
It's true 200 years ago to change and one state competed largely local outfits complete compete in the global economy.
And it seems to me intelligent for governors to say we want to have a national benchmark that we agree upon that the state doesn't want it.
It's intolerant so it's all they can they can ending an opt out at some -- I think final five have not signed on Texas didn't join -- Some states are thinking about whether they want to continue to participate but didn't the administration used this whether or not you joined the state joined common -- War.
As one of the criteria.
For whether or not you could get raced to the top funds which was big chunk of money that these states could qualify for that's a form of from a national.
Policy portion as -- I wouldn't say it's course and I certainly think they try to -- applies tonight but I think there is a difference -- for example in Indiana.
Governor there and decided that he was gonna -- stands decided that he was going.
Not to participate no federal dollars to right now energy but he -- -- -- when she thought was right.
And there's a stalwart.
States rights kind of -- guy who realize that would cheating ourselves and we don't have demanding standards so he was incentivized financially.
And I do think the federal government should and -- and -- -- just like not only did -- incentivized standards.
Incentivized teacher accountability -- incentivized charter schools and nobody was complaining about that people thought that was great.
Why should -- sent -- vice demanding -- here's another objection I hear which is that you take -- -- an example of Massachusetts which had -- reform in 1993 which imposed really.
Terrific standards and you saw test scores and performance rise in Massachusetts to.
Over the top in the country and even competitive width of the rest of them the best in the world on science for example.
Some people say you know this coming court now that Massachusetts is going to -- it's actually a -- -- Massachusetts take.
I don't think that's let me make two points actually -- evidence contrary to capitol -- which -- -- Massachusetts did have bystanders.
Unfortunately most of -- states did not.
And of Massachusetts thought expand -- -- higher.
They should have stayed with their standards to meet the higher the standards -- -- however.
They actually did some independent valuations.
They brought in the team of teachers to analyze their standards.
Against the common core and niece who are highly credible -- teachers who were involved in the original standards they concluded the common -- more rumors and probably as importantly.
-- -- issue we've talked about here.
Who's a guy who created corn knowledge and it's been on this standards -- for the last three years.
While progress is an education of watered down standards diluted accountability.
And -- himself said these standards are top of the line so that doesn't mean -- -- it can't be improved.
But I think buying in large.
They're gonna move the needle forward.
Pinnacle I think some of the people figure though worries that OK we -- actually going to be captured by political interest particularly the most powerful on education teachers unions and Washington and then wandered to.
I should finish a reverse I think the unions have much more power -- state level.
And and that's where they got water don't know nobody doubts that most state standards today Massachusetts was an exception when nobody doubts.
That most state standards are very -- Kids who graduating from high school.
-- -- holding on prepared for college it's it's ridiculous so I think if there's a risk of capture.
The closer you get to the local action.
The greater the risk of capture -- indeed that's so big problem in much of what goes on in K12 education today all right Joseph thanks so much for being here thank you --
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